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silvercar

GDB2222 wrote: »

I went to hospital today for a routine appointment. It was good and bad. Some really bad.

Bad: It turns out that I'm going to the Leukaemia Clinic!

Good: I don't think I have Leukaemia.

Good: My Haemoglobin has gone up again. It was down.

Bad: It goes up and down, and if it goes down again they want to take a bone marrow sample. An absolutely horrid test.

Very, very bad: Whilst I was in the waiting room, one of the other patients collapsed with a heart attack. The crash team took far too long to arrive, 5 minutes I reckon, and they could not revive him. It might have made no difference if they had got there sooner, but it is concerning. All this was going on 3 metres away.

I recall you have had low blood counts before and needed transfusions? or something similar? Didn't you say that you were treated in the same room as people having chemo? So there is a history of things turning out not to be as bad as could be.

Bad news of someone having a heart attack so near. If they had been out shopping or at home it could have taken even longer for help to arrive. Hopefully his family will think that he had the best chance. (Though you would have thought that any medical person in a hospital would have been able to do something in advance of the crash team.)

GDB2222

lostinrates wrote: »

What other things have they suggested it could be?

A bone barrow sample IS a horrid test, my sympathy.

You want in on the candle nights, huh? you got it.


Its very sad about the other patient. . You hope if you are there its the best place.

The consultant reckons it's probably low EPO.

"Healthy kidneys produce a hormone called erythropoietin (EPO). A hormone is a chemical produced by the body and released into the blood to help trigger or regulate particular body functions. EPO prompts the bone marrow to make red blood cells, which then carry oxygen throughout the body."

It must be awful for the guy's family. They sent him off to hospital for a routine outpatient appointment, and he's not coming back.

ivyleaf

GDB Sorry you've had such a horrible day May your haemoglobin stay up!

Yorkie What a worry for you about your Dad, so sorry to hear that. I lost my parents a long time ago and I'm glad now - they both died relatively young, but at least I'm not having to worry about them now.

GDB2222

My son sent me this question:

How can the world import more than it exports?!




Do any NPs have any ideas? I said that I wanted to see the full source.

silvercar

GDB2222 wrote: »

It must be awful for the guy's family. They sent him off to hospital for a routine outpatient appointment, and he's not coming back.

Yes but he must have been at the hospital for a reason, he clearly had something wrong with him which may or may not be linked.

Not really that different to sending someone to the corner shop for a pint of milk and he's not coming back.

Can see that it is scary for you.

Why don't they rename the leukemia clinic something less scary like "blood disorders"?

lostinrates

silvercar wrote: »

I recall you have had low blood counts before and needed transfusions? or something similar? Didn't you say that you were treated in the same room as people having chemo? So there is a history of things turning out not to be as bad as could be.

Bad news of someone having a heart attack so near. If they had been out shopping or at home it could have taken even longer for help to arrive. Hopefully his family will think that he had the best chance. (Though you would have thought that any medical person in a hospital would have been able to do something in advance of the crash team.)

Things I haven't liked are things like in eye clinic the guy having tests in the same room as me ( two at a time they do you) they drew the curtain and told him there was nothing else they could do and they expected he'd have no sight within ( cannot remember the time). Times like that I feel NHs fails. Not only did he deserve privacy with the consultant but my test results were pretty useless because its very hard to not be distracted and tearful for some one hearing that news. ( also my test results are a bit flawed anyway because you head each other's beens and I always think my test is over when its the others person's test over)

Also, before we knew this, as an undergrad when I had my first Bell's palsy I went into hospital and was in a bed next to a terrified old woman who had been ( unsuccessfully but only just) strangled. She was traumatised, absolutely traumatised, and seemed to have no friends or family. Looking back its absolutely shameful that victim support or something aren't able to act quickly enough to arrange some sort of crisis counselling. It was highly traumatic for her, not just the attack, but the hospitalisation, she was scared and traumatised, and frankly, I didn't know what to say to her, and I found that distressing. ( I was also stressed because it was my finals that week , so I was trying to get discharged, revise, heal and so on and it was like sleeping in an environment from a horror film ) Couple of people died on that ward that stay and it was less worrying than this poor traumatised woman. ( it was a mixed sex ward of ancient people and me).

lostinrates

Re heart attacks one of firs aunts and her husband are surgeons , one is a heart and were at their university old students reunion, few years a go, and the place was FULL of heart surgeons...anyway...

He had a heart attack and no one paid any attention at all. They'd taken another aunt, who has no medical training but flat shared with them at uni , who after failing to get anyone to take it seriously called an ambulance.

Things like this make me feel my iatrophobia is well founded.

lostinrates

GDB2222 wrote: »

My son sent me this question:

How can the world import more than it exports?!




Do any NPs have any ideas? I said that I wanted to see the full source.

Maybe surprising amounts go missing at sea , are misappropriated in transit or subject to piracy or customs or something? :undecided.

Yorkie1

GDB2222 wrote: »

I went to hospital today for a routine appointment.

How awful for his family as well as for you.

Hope that your tests have a decent outcome for you.

lostinrates wrote: »

Things I haven't liked are ...

Also, before we knew this,

Again, just how awful.

lostinrates

There are probably more yorkie. The blind guy was last time in eye clinic, where it got good news that mine won't progressing ( in private fwiw)

And the old woman was really impactful. I had to go to that hospital a surprising number of times for someone who wasn't knowingly ill. ( insurance requirements then) but that occasion is one of the things I think that really made be think quite hard about what I wanted from life. I did do my finals and took my place for the next year, but mainly because it took me that long to think it all through. It wasn't the only, or the major thing, but it was a straw on the back.