Anyone else live on a new(ish) estate and...

Mrs_Imp

Peter333 wrote: »

And would you be OK with someone else's car stuck outside your living room window, for potentially 10 hours a day? Just sitting there, because some cheeky monkey thinks it's OK to use the road directly outside someone's house day in, day out, while they galavant off to the train station, to go to work and stay there all day?

In a word, Yes.

There is a definite advantage to people parking on our road. It helps to prevent cars going too fast past our house, and as I have 2 young children, I prefer the cars to go a bit more slowly. We lived in some flats a few years ago and one of the houses on the same road took umbridge at me parking on 'her' road. She informed me that she 'paid her council tax to park outside her own house' She had a driveway that she never used though. Other houses on the road didn't like us flat-dwellers parking on the road either, and evidently some complaints were made to the local councillors. She got her own way in the end as the council put up double yellow lines, so now no-one parks outside her house, not even her. Cars driving along the road now regularly exceed 40mph, even though the limit is 30.

I'm glad we've moved to a more relaxed neighbourhood - no-one minds whose house you've parked outside, and if a delivery has to block the road as a result, the residents are understanding and wait patiently.

Jagraf

We lived in a mid terrace with no driveway, but plenty of room to park on the road as it was a long road with a dead end and huge houses up the top so they had massive driveways, but sometimes you had to walk as much as 100 metresn:eek:;)

My neighbours didn't like people parking outside her house. Her first idea was to put cones on the road lol, which also stopped me parking on the road too if there was space. She would literally drive a fee metres, then get her cones out of her boot, and place them accordingly. Us neighbours started moving them back on the path. The next step was for her to nail a plaque to her fence stating that it was private parking. She even had a go at me once for parking outside as part of my car was in her space.

Errata

Peter333 wrote: »

And would you be OK with someone else's car stuck outside your living room window, for potentially 10 hours a day? Just sitting there, because some cheeky monkey thinks it's OK to use the road directly outside someone's house day in, day out, while they galavant off to the train station, to go to work and stay there all day?

I think it's a bloomin' cheek personally. And frankly, if you say you would be happy with someone doing it to you, I won't believe you. Not a soul on the planet, would be happy with someone doing that. And you can bet that the people doing it to others would be the most peed off it someone did it to them!

Plenty of others have to pay parking fees if they want to use the car parks, while they commute. Don't see why some people think they should be exempt.

If someone did this to me, outside 'my' house, I think I might 'accidently' bump into their car.

Thank you Mr Hyacinth Bucket.

phoenix_w

I live on an 80's estate. Every house has reasonable provision for parking (2 car drives at least, others have also paved over their front gardens so they can park zillions of cars etc.) It winds me up when we go and visit friends on a estate built four years ago where each property has much worse provision for off road parking.

Anyhow, we have no problems until it snows. Our road is one of the main around the estate and also a bus route so gets gritted, so people from nearby streets park on our road when it snows. That would be absolutely fine - because there is one side of the street with playing fields and plenty of space to park without causing obstruction... But because the people are selfish, they don't want to either add 10-20 seconds onto their walk or not be able to see their cars out of their windows, so they double park rather than use the abundant space next to the playing field - and cue the chaos when buses really struggle to get past and we need to use a banksman to get out of the drive!

I struggle to understand these people's thinking. They can see the chaos it causes and I'm sure a few of them must have suffered collateral damage (smashed door mirrors), and they can see that there is an abundance of space just a few steps away, and they probably realise that they're increasing the chances of their vehicles being bumped or written off.. Yet every year it's the same.

TBagpuss

I agree that it can be very irritating to have other people parking outside your home, particularly when this makes it hard to park yourself. Until very recently I lived in a terraced house - only a small number of houses had driveways.

While there was usually enough parking for everyone to find a space, as there was a small car park at the end of the cul-de-sac, and a large lay-by on one side of the road deep enough for cars to part end on (so there was enough space for 2, rather than one, car in front of some houses) it was't always possible to park in front of your own house and there were some people who would get quite territorial about the bit of road in front of their houses.

It is annoying not to be able to park in front of your own house, but you just have to accept that it is a public road and you don't have an more right than anyone else.

If people are parking in a way which blocks access then that's a different issue - I think there are a lot of people who don't know, or don't care, about the rules regarding parking across dropped kerbs, or about blocking access, and of course there is also the issue that older properties are not always built to accommodate today's bigger cars. I know of one street near where I work, where the houses all have driveways, but the drives are very short so most cars overhang onto the pavement when parked, making the pavement very difficult to navigate.

Pington

If people park in a way that blocks your driveway, meaning you can't get in or out, that is bad.

If people park in a way that makes it difficult to get your car in or out (too close to your driveway or opposite your driveway on a narrow road, for example), that's frustrating and could be deemed inconsiderate. I expect many such parkers haven't even registered the issue though.

People parking perfectly legally in a way that just happens to be outside your house, yet not obstructing anyone or making manoeuvres difficult, really aren't doing anything wrong.

Yes, I can imagine it's extremely annoying to not be able to park outside your own house. I would hate it. But that's why I prioritised parking with my choice of residence. Had I chosen to live on a terraced street with no driveways, for example, then I'd just have to suck it up or move.

In situations where residents are unable to park due to people from elsewhere using the space for nearby facilities (stations, shops etc) I can imagine it is very annoying for them. In such cases I expect a residents' permit scheme would be the best option because what else can you really do if people are abiding by the law?

I had a driveway at my old house that was constantly blocked completely by my neighbour's son; he blocked me in, out, day and night and was verbally abusive whenever I confronted him about it. It made me miserable and was one of the reasons I prioritised parking so much when I moved. I had another neighbour whose driveway was never blocked, yet used to complain constantly about seeing cars parked (legally and considerately) on the street when she looked out of her window. Personally I think she was whinging with no good reason compared to my situation.

Lily-Rose_3

I am with the people here who say that it a massive nuisance. And obviously the ones who think it's OK are the ones who DO it! And obviously don't have it happen to them!!!

Even if they are not doing anything 'wrong' or illegal; it's still inconsiderate and rude. As someone said earlier; the people that think it's ok for them to park where the hell they want, are often the same arrogant and ignorant types who play loud music, have loud parties, and don't give a fig what other people think or how other people are affected. There is something of a sense of entitlement in the attitudes of these types of people.

They are the 'if I am allowed to do it: I WILL' brigade. Sometimes, just because you CAN do something, that doesn't necessarily mean you SHOULD do it. And just because it's legal for you to do it, that doesn't mean that people don't have a right to be annoyed by it.

An old neighbour of mine, used to park all over the place; him and his stupidly large family; cars, vans, motorbikes, everywhere, frequently blocking us in; and this one time, someone from down the road, parked RIGHT in front of his front hedge, on the grass verge, and he went BALLISTIC. It was there all day, and he was ranting about it incessantly.

Absolutely laughable and hilarious; it was OK for him and his family to dominate the road and the verges with their vehicles, but God forbid anyone parks in front of HIS house!!! I can imagine the people on this thread thinking it's acceptable to park where they fancy, and that the people complaining, should 'suck it up' would react like my old neighbour too. Constantly parking where THEY want, but ranting if someone does it to them.

And I am finding the frankly rather stupid and sarcastic comments, aimed at the people who are annoyed by people parking outside their house, childish and pathetic.

The fact that people are mocking the people who get annoyed by people parking outside their house, (and they have a right to be annoyed) really says more about them.

Like I said, it's the 'If I can do it I will, no matter how much it annoys other people' brigade.

DRP

How is someone parking outside your house a 'massive nuisance'?

It isn't any nuisance at all, as long as they aren't blocking your drive or the road.

I've lived in several city centre terraced streets with no drives and currently live in a town centre terrace with a drive (on a street where all of the available street parking is always taken). I have no issue - i don't own the road and i certainly don't own the road in front of my house.

Stop curtain twitching - it is bad for your blood pressure

LutonGirl

I live in a 1960s close with very limited communal parking where one neighbour has a double garage full of stored stuff, a double drive that can accommodate 4 cars and a pair of adult sons who've moved home because their relationships have broken down.

They all have a car each, at least one other being "done up" on the drive at any time. Each lad also has a van for work and girlfriends coming and going as well as exes dropping off and picking up various grandchildren.

Mum and Dad shuffle all the cars into the communal spaces so as to save spaces for their lads on their drive.

I imagine a map laid out with toy cars on it and them with sticks pushing the cars around on their kitchen table like Churchill in the war rooms as they plan their daily parking strategy.

Lily-Rose_3

DRP wrote: »

How is someone parking outside your house a 'massive nuisance'?

It isn't any nuisance at all, as long as they aren't blocking your drive or the road.

I've lived in several city centre terraced streets with no drives and currently live in a town centre terrace with a drive (on a street where all of the available street parking is always taken). I have no issue - i don't own the road and i certainly don't own the road in front of my house.

Stop curtain twitching - it is bad for your blood pressure

It's my OPINION. It's my OPINION that it's a nuisance, and plenty of people agree, unfortunately for you.

And just because my opinion doesn't tally with YOURS, that doesn't give you the right to make snarky remarks like 'stop curtain twitching.'

See, this is what I was on about in my post, about the pathetic and childish remarks from people who think it perfectly OK, to leave your car outside someone's house.

Thanks for proving me right. I rest my case...