my ex says he earns £156 a week.....

TheWaltons_3

moneysaveruk wrote: »

maybe people should make sure they have the right partner in the first place. ?

funny how the men get blamed always, i have lost count of the slags i have met with kids by 3 or 4 different men.

i would not pay them a penny

And what are your views on Abortions then? Would you rather these 'slags' aborted these babies that the dirty d-icked men helped them create?

I've lost count of the dirty d-icks screwing 10 women off the same Estate....

TOUGH.. pay for your kids or buy an inflatable doll

looby75

moneysaveruk wrote: »

maybe people should make sure they have the right partner in the first place. ?

funny how the men get blamed always, i have lost count of the slags i have met with kids by 3 or 4 different men.

i would not pay them a penny

Hmm I was with my ex for 3 years before we had our first child and then 11 years by the time ds came along. 14 years after we met he had an affair and left us. Before then I was pretty sure I had the right partner, how long exactly do you suggest people should wait to be sure before they have children :rolleyes:

If you have a child with a woman then you have a legal and moral responsibility to help provide for that child until they are of an age where they can support themselves. It doesn't matter how many other children she may have, and FTR my best mate has 4 children by 3 fathers and is by no means a slag, don't judge people unless you are 100% certain of their circumstances.

xxxMistyxxx

looby75 wrote: »

don't judge people unless you are 100% certain of their circumstances.

I totally agree with this, were all individuals, look at the full picture before you judge (if u feel u have to) ... really I dont think anyone has the right to judge anyone else for anything as unless u r the person involved u dont really know 100% what the deal is

The governement is in the process of funding research into child maintenance right now & hopefully it will mean a better deal for everyone in the future

I have to say I deffinately dont agree with people hiding there incomes to avoid paying child maintenance especially as from what I can gather from interviewing people about it they dont actually force u to pay that much of ur after tax wage anyway! Not considering the costs of bringing up a child in this day & age!

I think this subject is a bit of a mine field tho! So many different circumstances & things to take into account U cant really blame the government for getting it wrong, you cant plase all of the people all of the time as they say

MXW

I have not read all of the postings on this thread but get the general idea. My child support is paid via a court order and quite frankly that is no better than the csa. Some of you may have read my previous postings about my ongoing court case with regard to my ex trying (for the 3rd time in 5 years) to avoid paying maintanance. At my hearing last Tuesday you would not believe the evidence I had to back up the fact that he had delibarately reduced his wages just as he applied to court to reduce the maintanance (he has since decided that he is not going to wait for the court to make a ruling so he has taken it upon himself to reduce the child support himself) I had proof that prior to January he was earning between £600-£1000 NET each week and now it is £300, he also in January took out a £20,000 loan to buy into a holiday home and has a loan for a new bmw as well as his new partner having a loan for a new car! I also had evidence that he did exactly the same thing at his last application! The hearing on Tuesday should have been the final hearing, however the judge said he had not made a desicion and we would have to go back. The overall feeling was the judge was backing my ex up! I am speechless! I know a lot of folks have said that the courts should take over the csa, normally I would agree, but my experience speaks for itself!

A_Nice_Englishman

So what would be an equitable way of deciding how much an absent parent should pay towards the upkeep of his/her children?

Consider one parent living with two children. How about the absent parent paying half of things like the children's clothes and one third of the household expenses (rent, bills, food) etc?)

If there was a new partner, the absent parent would still pay half of the childrens clothes etc but a quarter of the household expenses.

Perhaps the time taken by the present parent to look after the children should be taken into account and increase the amount paid by the absent parent?

Not sure how workable this would be in practice, but hope it sparks a discussion!

greenturnips

Hi all

I've been reading these posts and had to post a reply.

So the women complain that he is hiding his earnings, the blokes say that the csa are taking too much.

Well, take my senario for instance the PWC gets £250 per week, plus her CT and rent paid. The CSA leaves me £250 per week to pay the rent, council tax, travel the 50 miles a day to work, support my son and my partner.

Wheres the logic here, i can see why nrp's are witholding income.

I am doing it by the book and cooperating with the csa and getting penalised for it.

[Deleted User]

t's interesting to see how strongly absent parents devoid themselves of the responsibilty of having a child.
If you are having a problem financially and need your childs father to pay more. my advice is this

1. Contact a solicitor and explain the situation, they may be able to get a hearing in front of a family court judge.

2. Call the Tax office and report that you believe your childs fathers income is being manipulated and he is not paying enough tax. This will lead them to investigate his situation etc... believe me they will do a much better job than the CSA.

3. If you do contact a solicitor, be agressive, he has been paying so little, you need back payments! it is possible in cases where one parent has withheld child benefit to get an order so that parent must continue child support until the child has finished full time education including University.

4. Many people never consider this but, it is often amazing what can come of it. - Find out who your local MP is write them a letter or better arrange to meet them - discuss your situation and they may be able to help or at least advise you.

£15 a week seems incredible, you could hardly look after a cat for that!
I wish you all the best with it, don't give up!

[Deleted User]

Oh and I'm also reminded of a case where a mother actually employed a private detective to spy on her ex husband (a tradesman of some description), they were able to gather evidence that he was being paid in cash up to a thousand pounds a week. They submitted this to the tax office who investigated and it was all sorted out for the mother.
a bit drastic - but I'd do it if I could afford it.

[Deleted User]

looby75 wrote: »

Hmm I was with my ex for 3 years before we had our first child and then 11 years by the time ds came along. 14 years after we met he had an affair and left us. Before then I was pretty sure I had the right partner, how long exactly do you suggest people should wait to be sure before they have children :rolleyes:

If you have a child with a woman then you have a legal and moral responsibility to help provide for that child until they are of an age where they can support themselves. It doesn't matter how many other children she may have, and FTR my best mate has 4 children by 3 fathers and is by no means a slag, don't judge people unless you are 100% certain of their circumstances.

I would say don't have a child with anyone unless they marry you

looby75

michael1983!! wrote: »

I would say don't have a child with anyone unless they marry you

he did marry me, dd is 14 when my divorce comes through in 6 weeks time we would have been married for 15 years.