my ex says he earns £156 a week.....

frugallass

my ex has paid me £20 a week for at least the last 6 years and refused to increase his payments to me - I contacted the CSA in the hope that the payments would increase to something a bit more realistic, they came back to me and said that his net income is £156 a week.......therefore assessing him as only having to pay me £15 a week

1. He is employed as a bricklayer (a good one at that)
2. He has a 3 bed house (with mortgage)
3. He owns a new Ford Focus ST
4. He recently moved his (latest) girlfriend and her three kids into the house
5. He sees our 15 year old daughter approx twice a year (we were never married)

I have good reason to believe that his employer has "fiddled" his wages so that the CSA think he is on a rubbish wage

What do the CSA do when a decision is appealed, do they check the NRP's wages again?

I'm going to contact the inland revenue and inform them that I believe that his employer has "fiddled" his wage slips and ask that they be investigated

I can't believe that he would do this, at the end of the day his daughter suffers, her school lunches alone cost me £10 a week

I'm very tempted to stop him seeing her until he has applied for and obtained legal parental responsibility - she has spent the last 3 weeks at his house, and she told me her dad took 5 days off work to be with her, whereas his girlfriend took two weeks off her work !

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Any advice would really be gratefully received - thank you x

gypsyjanet

Welcome to the( frustrating )club for those on the receiving end of the Self employed absent parents. Your case is a mirror image of my own.
I was told by the CSA that they have the powers to get the money from self employed people but its absolute rubbish. I am like you thinking of getting in touch with the Inland Revenue but I may actually write and gve him an ultimatum that if he doesnt pay up then I will send them all the info that I have .
The CSA have not responded to any letters from me and I cant even ask them how they have arrived at the figure that they gave me for an assement on his earnings. They are not correct and I need to find out more but Im having to take a case to the In. Case examiner because the CSA wont communicate with me !!!!

aussiesbird

frugallass wrote: »

my ex has paid me £20 a week for at least the last 6 years and refused to increase his payments to me - I contacted the CSA in the hope that the payments would increase to something a bit more realistic, they came back to me and said that his net income is £156 a week.......therefore assessing him as only having to pay me £15 a week

1. He is employed as a bricklayer (a good one at that)
2. He has a 3 bed house (with mortgage)
3. He owns a new Ford Focus ST
4. He recently moved his (latest) girlfriend and her three kids into the house
5. He sees our 15 year old daughter approx twice a year (we were never married)

I have good reason to believe that his employer has "fiddled" his wages so that the CSA think he is on a rubbish wage

What do the CSA do when a decision is appealed, do they check the NRP's wages again?

I'm going to contact the inland revenue and inform them that I believe that his employer has "fiddled" his wage slips and ask that they be investigated

I can't believe that he would do this, at the end of the day his daughter suffers, her school lunches alone cost me £10 a week

I'm very tempted to stop him seeing her until he has applied for and obtained legal parental responsibility - she has spent the last 3 weeks at his house, and she told me her dad took 5 days off work to be with her, whereas his girlfriend took two weeks off her work !

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Any advice would really be gratefully received - thank you x

I wouldn't advise that you stop him seeing your daughter, you are bigger than that, don't stoop to his level. I know it is infuriating but if you stop your daughter seeing her Dad then she will blame you and at 15 she may well go behind your back to have contact anyway. Do as you have said, go to the inland revenue and also appeal against the CSA's decision, if necessary get your MP involved, that nearly always helps. Good luck.

kelloggs36

My ex is also a self employed builder who declared to the inland revenue that he earned 146 pounds per week, which was accepted by the CSA. I however, made an application for a Departure on the grounds of his lifestyle being inconsistent with his declared income. The evidence I used was the following:

Old letter from his accountant when applying for our mortgage which showed that he earned 15k TEN YEARS BEFORE THAT yet when there is lots of work around he can't get the going rate?

Over 100 job adverts showing the daily pay rate for a bricklayer - varying from between 90 pounds and 150 pounds PER DAY.

Land registry documents which show how much he paid for his house which he had recently bought - 120k, yet he said his wife wasn't working?

The usual bills that a household would have to run - his housing costs alone took his income down to 36 pounds per week on which he was to feed and clothe himself, his wife and two children, pay his council tax, his petrol, his gas, his electricity, his phone and pay for the holidays which they have abroad each year. I bet even Martin Lewis can't do all of that on 36 quid a week!!!! lol.

On top of that, because it went to appeal I got copies of his MEF on which he said that he claimed NO tax credits - well, I'm sorry but if I only had 36 quid a week to live on I would certainly claim them. I got print outs of what he COULD have claimed had he chosen to do so if the earnings he declared were correct. He said he claimed no other benefits at all.

He failed to turn up at the hearings and so I won as he also refused to comply with the directions made by the Chairperson. He was ordered to supply a copy of his mortgage application on which he would have stated his income to them - but he refused. This is because he had declared FOUR TIMES his official income to the mortgage company!!! I know this because I rang them and asked that if I were self employed with a history of repossession and earned only 9.5k per year pre-tax would they loan me 100k. Of course they said that they wouldn't, and I remarked 'well you have my ex husband'. The man asked for his name and his address which I gave and he said 'mmmm, it is over 100!' to which I replied 'but he has told the tax office he only earns 9.5k' and he said 'he's declared 4 times that to us!'

He even acknowledged that he knew he shouldn't have told me that info but he felt it morally wrong that my ex should be lying in this way!!!! Anyway I used it as evidence in the Tribunal.

I got my nil assessment changed to 76.73 per WEEK which was backdated to the beginning!

frugallass

I've written my appeal letter tonight and have also discovered that the CSA have the power to ask for sight of bank statements and have asked that they do this

I've contacted the tax evasion hotline and reported him and his employers

I'm going to advise him that if he wants contact with his daughter then he has to apply for a parental responsibility order - I will not allow contact until this is done - when she is with him she is 250 miles away from me and I don't know anything about his new family or their history, they could be schedule one offenders for all I know !

Am also going to look out my MP

wish me luck !

frugallass

what is a "departure" ?

kelloggs36

A departure is now called a variation - it is a variation from the normal assessment which you can apply for on certain grounds. If you have enough evidence you can apply for a variation to disregard is declared income in favour of a more realistic income on the grounds of 'Lifestyle Inconsistent with Declared Income'.

frugallass

thanks so much x

master99

frugallass wrote: »

my ex has paid me £20 a week for at least the last 6 years and refused to increase his payments to me - I contacted the CSA in the hope that the payments would increase to something a bit more realistic, they came back to me and said that his net income is £156 a week.......therefore assessing him as only having to pay me £15 a week

1. He is employed as a bricklayer (a good one at that)
2. He has a 3 bed house (with mortgage)
3. He owns a new Ford Focus ST
4. He recently moved his (latest) girlfriend and her three kids into the house
5. He sees our 15 year old daughter approx twice a year (we were never married)

I have good reason to believe that his employer has "fiddled" his wages so that the CSA think he is on a rubbish wage

What do the CSA do when a decision is appealed, do they check the NRP's wages again?

I'm going to contact the inland revenue and inform them that I believe that his employer has "fiddled" his wage slips and ask that they be investigated

I can't believe that he would do this, at the end of the day his daughter suffers, her school lunches alone cost me £10 a week

I'm very tempted to stop him seeing her until he has applied for and obtained legal parental responsibility - she has spent the last 3 weeks at his house, and she told me her dad took 5 days off work to be with her, whereas his girlfriend took two weeks off her work !

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Any advice would really be gratefully received - thank you x

:money: good for him im happy he has fiddled his wages..thats what my employer has done fiddled them so i dont pay out and be in debt and be streesed and come home with nothing at the end of the week i love my employer for doing that. now if the csa was fair in how people pay up then men would not have to do that but all you women do is take take take. get a job like the rest of us. i mean thats what i was told. good on your x he has to live too:T

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Sounds like hes faking his wage and is mainly paid in cash.

missylou_2

master99 wrote: »

:money: good for him im happy he has fiddled his wages..thats what my employer has done fiddled them so i dont pay out and be in debt and be streesed and come home with nothing at the end of the week i love my employer for doing that. now if the csa was fair in how people pay up then men would not have to do that but all you women do is take take take. get a job like the rest of us. i mean thats what i was told. good on your x he has to live too:T

Although like most of the posters on this forum I do work, I would sooner resort to signing on than resort to the deplorable, not to mention criminal actions that you appear to see as acceptable! :mad: