New Road Tax display rules

Car_54

Tilt wrote: »

I live on the Isle of Wight and there is no regular DVLA presence here. Neither has the DVLA installed any ANPR cameras to replace the tax disc .

Do they need to install cameras? Don't the police have them in cars, i.e. mobile and unobtrusive, rather than in fixed spots on the island which no doubt the bad guys would soon know to avoid?

[Deleted User]

Car_54 wrote: »

How would you recognise one?

Your average police car doesn't have them. Just the traffic cars, 4X4s etc.

Tilt

Car_54 wrote: »

Do they need to install cameras? Don't the police have them in cars, i.e. mobile and unobtrusive, rather than in fixed spots on the island which no doubt the bad guys would soon know to avoid?

Yes, of course they do. But not all police cars have them plus the Island is predominately rural thus plenty of paces where you can go without seeing a police car for weeks.

In any event you are missing the point. The DVLA don't seem to be interested in physical enforcement (clamping/towing/crushing) on the Isle of Wight. I know someone who reported an untaxed car which was parked in their street to them (on line) 8 times in as many months and nothing happened so they gave up.

Its all very well the DVLA sending out postal penalties but not much use if the owners have given false details. The DVLA would have us believe that your car will be clamped, towed and ultimately crushed if you don't tax it. Well that dosn't appear to happen even with the on-line reporting facility (obviously with the tax disc visible), so what chance have you got when the tax disc is done away with? As I say, the die hard motorists who don't pay will simply multiply and we will see more and more cars left on the road which won't be taxed and no doubt not insured as well.

karxlee

I have a question... I have just agreed to buy a car from a private seller via ebay today and agreed to collect it on Saturday. There is currently no tax, the seller said he will pay for tax if I give him the money- which is fine however there's no point doing that because it will be in his name.

When I collect the car of Saturday there will be no post offices open so I cannot go with the green slip and purchase tax, so what are my options?

Can I tax a car that will still show in the sellers name due to the time it will take for the DVLA to process the notification?

or

Can I still tax the car if it has an MOT and valid insurance in my name, but not the ownership papers.?

I'm not sure if the DVLA have thought this through, they are going to have to offer a way of transferring paperwork over to new owners online, otherwise it's going to be the pain of using the post office more.

Can anyone offer any advise?

roddydogs

AdrianC wrote: »

If you really think a round piece of paper prevents the real scumbags driving unregistered cars...

YEARS ago, I had a tax disc nicked from my car. Eventually, the Police found it. It'd been "edited", but still didn't match the car it was found in.

It prevents "Some", of course not "All" scumbags driving non Taxed/Motd cars.

Quentin

karxlee wrote: »

I have a question... I have just agreed to buy a car from a private seller via ebay today and agreed to collect it on Saturday. There is currently no tax, the seller said he will pay for tax if I give him the money- which is fine however there's no point doing that because it will be in his name.

When I collect the car of Saturday there will be no post offices open so I cannot go with the green slip and purchase tax, so what are my options?

Can I tax a car that will still show in the sellers name due to the time it will take for the DVLA to process the notification?

or

Can I still tax the car if it has an MOT and valid insurance in my name, but not the ownership papers.?

I'm not sure if the DVLA have thought this through, they are going to have to offer a way of transferring paperwork over to new owners online, otherwise it's going to be the pain of using the post office more.

Can anyone offer any advise?

You can buy it online or by phone 24/7. Use the transfer of ownership slip the vendor gives you.

Buzby

karxlee wrote: »

I have a question... I have just agreed to buy a car from a private seller via ebay today and agreed to collect it on Saturday. There is currently no tax, the seller said he will pay for tax if I give him the money- which is fine however there's no point doing that because it will be in his name.

When I collect the car of Saturday there will be no post offices open so I cannot go with the green slip and purchase tax, so what are my options?

Can I tax a car that will still show in the sellers name due to the time it will take for the DVLA to process the notification?

or

Can I still tax the car if it has an MOT and valid insurance in my name, but not the ownership papers.?

I'm not sure if the DVLA have thought this through, they are going to have to offer a way of transferring paperwork over to new owners online, otherwise it's going to be the pain of using the post office more.

Can anyone offer any advise?

No need for a PO. You do it all online. Just ensure your insurer has cover in place using the VRM and it takes 2 days before the data filters through. After all the boxes are ticked, you're good to go.

Nothing needs to be 'transferred' the original owner only needs to ensure a current MoT is in place.

Strider590

Tilt wrote: »

Its all very well the DVLA sending out postal penalties but not much use if the owners have given false details..

Exactly this, for example there are unregistered, non-tax paying, illegal taxi firms that run fleets of cars and register them to addresses 200 miles away.

There are also people who use multiple alias names and who are virtually untraceable by the authorities, they have no tax, no insurance and the car is often registered to a previously abandoned address (they find houses that are empty and for sale, then intercept the post).

What do the authorities do about this? Sweet FA. Instead they go chasing after the hard working tax payers, the ones they can trace and prosecute without being politically incorrect.

Former_MSE_Andrea

Hi all, you might like to read our news story too:

The end is nigh for tax discs - how will it affect you?

SailorSam

Where you listening to Radio4 Moneybox at lunchtime ?
They were talking about tax discs and if they could ever become a collectors item. The 'expert' they had on said for a modern disc it could possibly worth about 10p. Last month which were the final ones issued may be more. The Dvla had run out of the perforated paper and had to send printed A4 sheets.... (the one i've just got had no perforations), and in the future may be worth something.
But earlier discs have been sold for up to £1500. Apparently up until 1921 when you taxed your car you had to hand the old disc in, so there are very few that exist.
If you find one at the back of a drawer don't throw it away.