Scottish independence

black_taxi_2

glasgae MPs imperial march:D


https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=720408611340179

gkerr4

In_For_A_Penny wrote: »

I think a no vote will be much less divisive - after all, nothing concrete will change and after 6 months this will be a thing of the past.

Think your N.Ireland analogy is way out though. . . What happened there can only be described as a war (even if the media chose to portray it as a bit of "trouble"). . . I think Scotland is safe on that front!

i'm not sure - its closer than you think - sectarian issues are just as strong in parts of glasgow where walls also exist.

there's a reason why there was never an IRA attack on scotland - its 'cos the local would all board ferries and attack back!

Marazan

ColdIron wrote: »

Huge drift in favour of No recently

http://uk.site.sports.betfair.com/betting/LoadRunnerInfoAction.do?marketId=110033387&selectionId=5334893&timeZone=Europe/London&locale=en&region=GBR&brand=betfair&currency=GBP

Was it Mumsnet wot did it or the concerns of nearly every Scottish financial institution and global giants from BP and Royal Dutch Shell to Credit Suisse and Nomura?

It was the Survation poll that showed no change.

The betting is driven entirely off the polling, you can see the market move as the info leaks.

Polling companies could make fortunes front running Betfair on their polling news.

jauntyangle

The polling companies are all saying different things - the margins of error must surely mean that any result from 60% "YES" to 60% NO and anything in between could happen.

If the turnout is in the 95%+ range, anything can happen and the polls and the bookmakers odds are pretty useless.

scott_lithgows

In_For_A_Penny wrote: »

I think a no vote will be much less divisive - after all, nothing concrete will change and after 6 months this will be a thing of the past.

Think your N.Ireland analogy is way out though. . . What happened there can only be described as a war (even if the media chose to portray it as a bit of "trouble"). . . I think Scotland is safe on that front!

Scotland v England game soon will bring the nation together lol.


Public opinion up here is that their wont be a rerun for about 10 years however there is talk of demanding another referendum if UK leaves the EU.


It wont be like NI but the losers will soon point out if the winners have not built the promised land.

black_taxi_2

Scotland England game

who had that bright idea

Smithers37

gkerr4 wrote: »

Im a Scotsman by birth and have lived in North-West England for 22 of my 40 years. I can't quite lose my accent (even if i try! lol!) Everyone assumes i am "totally for" independence and i get comments like "if you don't want to be part of us f**k off back there". I love England but mostly I love Britain. its really quite damaging and worrying.

I really do feel for the Scots that want unity. If English people kept telling me that I'm a Yes voter just because of my accent and big ginger beard I'd probably vote Yes in anger and out of spite.

We've had our differences, for example: You're Scottish, we're not Scottish. But on the whole I think a United Kingdom gives everyone a better chance. We need your Highlands to explore, your shortbread to eat and your Scotch to drink. You need our... Umm...Stuff? I'll think of something and get back to you.

I think having a referendum is important for the Scottish people to decide, however I just hope that enough Scottish people see value in the UK. I think if the referendum results in a No vote, it will clear the air once and for all. If Yes, well then Braveheart.

Be_Happy

I think someone should look into the running of the YouGov polls.

As a regular YouGov member I've been invited to complete all the previous Independence polls. In last week's poll I said I would vote YES. I didn't get an invitation to complete this week's poll.

How are poll contributors selected???

Doesn't say much for the poll comparisons if different people are being polled.

edinburgher

So a private business should explain how they construct survey panels just because you got screened out/didn't make one survey?

Sounds a bit hysterical to me

rpc

Be_Happy wrote: »

Doesn't say much for the poll comparisons if different people are being polled.

That's the whole method of polling and the reason that they are statistically meaningful (NB meaningful doesn't mean accurate!)

The 51% Yes poll was a bit unusual in that they deliberately revisited a previous group. Notably, the weighting moved that result far far more than in any other YouGov poll - the raw outcome was rather uninteresting.

The polling panel needs to be both random and representative to give the best accuracy (without getting into weighting, which has always swung the raw poll result towards Yes). You probably weren't asked to be included because of random chance. That you have been in so many suggests that their "master list" doesn't have as many people of your characteristic as it perhaps should.

Repeatedly polling the same people starts to mean the result trend are more representative of that particular panel and cannot be easily extrapolated to the population as a whole.

But if it makes you feel better, it is a big government conspiracy and everything is being manipulated against Scottish FREEEEEEDDDDOOMMMMMM.