Pregnancy and Neighbours Car Horn

Buzzybee90

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Whilst I agree that your neighbour is acting like an arrogant lout, I think you are making a fuss unnecessarily. 6.30 is not early. You'll be woken up a whole site earlier than that when you have the baby.

You've asked him to stop, he hasn't, you'll be moving in five months, just ignore it and move on.

It is early, especially for young children and the elderly.

Regardless, if he was doing it at 11pm which is "not that late" it would be just as bad.

seven-day-weekend

19lottie82 wrote: »

That's a matter of opinion. I think it's early and unacceptable.
Most of the people I know who work 9-5, aren't up at 630.



Irrelevant.

I'm not saying I agree with the guy doing the tooting. I just think you should choose your battles and as the OP says they are leaving in a few months, I personally think it is best not to escalate it.

I personally don't think 6.30 is early, but I suppose that depends whether you are a lark or an owl.

seven-day-weekend

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

It is early, especially for young children and the elderly.

Regardless, if he was doing it at 11pm which is "not that late" it would be just as bad.

Most of the young children and 'elderly' that I know are up and awake by then. Teens and Twenties may consider it the middle of the night, however

I am 64 and retired, and have been up since 5.30. Having said that, I go to bed about 9.30. I accept that other peoples' nights are only just beginning then and would not expect them to be quiet just because I go to bed early.

6.30 is early for tooting car horns, but as the OP is moving on, I personally don't think it is worth getting in his neighbour's bad books over.

Tigsteroonie

catkins wrote: »

There is a comment saying 6.30am is not that early!!! Also that most people are up at that time. Strange then that I only know maybe 3 people that are up that early - even friends/neighbours that work don't get up before about 7.30.

Well bully for them that they don't have either a long commute, or an 8am start time. I know a good number of people who have both, including some who are already on a train by 6:30am to make that 8am start.

However, as others have said, that doesn't make it right to beep the horn at 6:30am or at any time outside of 9am to 6pm (after that, it could be argued that it disturbs children going to sleep), and I don't see why it is necessary at ANY time of the day or night.

notanewuser

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Whilst I agree that your neighbour is acting like an arrogant lout, I think you are making a fuss unnecessarily. 6.30 is not early. You'll be woken up a whole site earlier than that when you have the baby.

You've asked him to stop, he hasn't, you'll be moving in five months, just ignore it and move on.

6:30am is the middle of the night to me, and my daughter!! She never woke early. We aren't all the same, you know.

lilmissreading

Cripes. You sound a bit like my own DH who gets very wound up by people's inconsiderate behaviour (which this clearly is) but to the extent that it becomes about the principle of the things and being right rather than solving the problem.

We moved into our house in Feb this year when I first found out there was a baby on the way for us too, so first off congratulations! Bless DH he also treated me like a precious piece of porcelain.

No disturbed sleep is not good but imagine if this was number 2 and you were being disturbed by no 1 crying and waking you up? Yes of course sleep disturbance doesn't make any of us feel great but it is survivable. Chances are your LO is awake when your OH is asleep.

BTW, other posters are right. My sleep has been all over the shop since falling pg from insomnia for no reason, pain, discomfort, toilet trips and so on. I can understand why she would want to sleep while she can but I had a myth in my mind that I would get as much sleep as I could before the baby arrived. it appears my experience is not unusual and actually I have mostly kissed goodbye to a normal sleep pattern since Feb

My experience of DH's neighbour dispute since moving here are as follows:

1) Noisy music gate: neighbour playing loud drum and bass after 10pm for hours. We tried to address it regualrly - he couldn't hear us knocking when hte music was on and never answered the door at other times. DH reported it to the council. They sent a letter. It stopped. We were lucky. TBH I was so exhausted by early pg that I could sleep through this with earplugs. It was DH it bothered. It didn't stress me out.

2) Chest of drawers rubbish gate - neighbours (townhouse divided into flats) from the basement put a chest of drawers (broken) with our bins and threw bags of rubbish in our bins. This was a concern as we barely had enough of our rubbish space (renovating house), it stank and DH was spending numerous car trips to the dump with work related rubbish. It infuriated him that while he was getting himself tired and dirty, the car dirty, using petrol and his time to sort out rubbish this person thought they could dump it on us. There ensued some back and forth of moving the chest of drawers and rubbish bags between the bins. Eventually the ground floor tenant saw, believed that DH was dumping OUR rubbish in the bins and came round to threaten to kill us. This was stressful. I moved the black bin liners in the bins to a bin outside an empty house (avoidance but a solution nonetheless) and wrote a letter to the ground floor explaining the situation. DH also got to write a letter but one that never saw the light of day IYKWIM to release some rage. Not heard a squeak since and they have only used our bins their rubbish once since. Actually because we are no longer renovating it's nowhere near the same problem as we have the space to let someone put the odd bag or two in now.

Basically, when we did the official channels or thought creatively the solution was much better. I would certainly find it more stressful to have an ongoing dispute (I felt sick when the doorbell ran, scuttled out to my car and dreaded being at home during bin gate. The council route was much less stressful for me. What does your OH feel? If she would find confrontation comfortable by all means try the tit for tat route but I am worried that these things just escalate (like standing outside your house at 10pm going beep beep). It's your reaciton he wants. Don't give it to him and he should get bored. Challenge him and it sounds like he'll up the ante.

Good luck with it all and be safe.

seven-day-weekend

Tigsteroonie wrote: »

Well bully for them that they don't have either a long commute, or an 8am start time. I know a good number of people who have both, including some who are already on a train by 6:30am to make that 8am start.

However, as others have said, that doesn't make it right to beep the horn at 6:30am or at any time outside of 9am to 6pm (after that, it could be argued that it disturbs children going to sleep), and I don't see why it is necessary at ANY time of the day or night.

My son's girlfriend is on a bus every morning by 6.20 to get to work for 7 a.m.

When my son is on early shift, he is out on his cycle by 6.30 to get to work for 7.

I myself used to be up by 6.30 to get to work by 8, when I was working.

In fact I know more people who are up at that time than not.

However, it IS too early to blow car horns, but as the OP is moving on, I don't think it is worth making a fuss about.

Tigsteroonie

notanewuser wrote: »

6:30am is the middle of the night to me, and my daughter!! She never woke early. We aren't all the same, you know.

I feel a poll coming on - "Is your child an early riser?" by time & age group ...

I wonder whether children pick up the habits of their parents? Do young children get into the habit of staying in bed and going back to sleep, if nobody else in the house is up at 6am? Is our son only an early riser because I hear him wake up/get up, and therefore I get up at that time too? A debate for a different time ...

RuthnJasper

AndrewB3 wrote: »

Now it has changed to standing outside our house and shouting Beep Beep at 10pm.

Honestly don't understand how someone can be like this

He's clearly a prawn cracker short of a full take-away. As difficult as it seems, the only practical way to deal with him is to ignore him. You've tried reason. Alas, reason never works on an unreasonable man.

Treat this latest development as a joke; make the phrase "beep beep" into something you and your wife can laugh at and just ignore the pathetic fool. Personally, I would be thankful that I was living next door to him and not an army of violent and witless ne'er-do-wells with their chavved-up cars and other attendant problems.

Perhaps your neighbour might like a little toy car to play with for Christmas? Or a subscription to Top Gear Magazine to keep him quiet?

Any attempt to nettle him further is only likely to turn things more bizarre and out of control, and you'll soon have a lovely new baby. Focus on that and leave the neighbour in his own sad little world. You might still have to live next door to him for a long time.

Very best wishes to you, AndrewB3. x

Startingagainagain

OP - I sympathise. We have a family over the road who are 'beepers'...I honestly didn't realise people still did it! When someone arrives - they beep. Someone leaves - they beep. 11pm the other night. When DS was tiny and I'd been up most of the night and had just got back to sleep when one of them beeped at 6am - not cool.


My next door neighbours have been a total pain since we moved in (thanks 1970s paper thin walls!)...the bloke plays his computer games wired up to speakers so loudly that it makes things in my house shake, same goes for his god awful music (they're professionals with a child - it's a 'nice' street...no guarantees eh?).


Then - they got a dog. They leave it for hours and hours and it whines and whines the entire time they're out. I left it for a while, new puppy and all that but I'd had enough the other night. I had knocked before about the loud music and was called a few choice names - so this time I popped a VERY nice letter through the door (far nicer than they deserved) saying I understood that it could be difficult to settle a new dog etc but I'd really appreciate it if they could look into it, they were welcome to pop round for a chat any time. I haven't heard a peep out of any them since (dog included).


There's something to be said for "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar".


Your neighbour is clearly a total 'berk' but I think no reaction would be better in this instance - if he's getting nothing out of you then there's no reason for him to continue.


Given that you're moving, I would leave it, really.


The fact that it's 6.30 is irrelevant (and just because 6.30 is ok for some people doesn't mean some thoughtless tool can assert his d!ckheadedness on the rest of the street), as is the whole "wait till the baby comes". One of the most irritating things people say when you're pregnant - get your sleep while you can! It doesn't work like that!


Be the bigger person here - your street doesn't sound like it needs another silly little man (which you WILL be if you retaliate). People like that thrive on confrontation and it will be far more irritating for him to know he's having no effect on you.