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Self promotion is NOT the same as spam

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Glad
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The spam button is only to be used for the removal of genuine spamming posts

If you see a comp posted which you 'believe' is self promotion please use the report button to ask the forum team to take a look

One person posting on the thread to question wether the OP might be self promoting should be enough to alert other compers :)
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  • Glad
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    Bumping as some people appear not to have seen this :)
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  • MaineBlue
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    What if it is genuine and obvious self promotion Glad, rather than 'I suspect this is spam'? Shouldn't it be removed sooner rather than later, and thus a number members hitting 'spam' will remove it. Otherwise, the thread can lurk around for ages and in some cases an entire weekend (as the MSE Mods do take time off and don't monitor the site 24/7) meaning the work of the self promoter is achieved?
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  • snakepilsen
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    MaineBlue wrote: »
    What if it is genuine and obvious self promotion Glad, rather than 'I suspect this is spam'? Shouldn't it be removed sooner rather than later, and thus a number members hitting 'spam' will remove it. Otherwise, the thread can lurk around for ages and in some cases an entire weekend (as the MSE Mods do take time off and don't monitor the site 24/7) meaning the work of the self promoter is achieved?

    Like this post by Neil Greaves Digital Manager at VisitBlackpool.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5043816
  • MaineBlue
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    Like this post by Neil Greaves Digital Manager at VisitBlackpool.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5043816
    Exactly. Why is that still here 14 hours later? Surely that is better spammed than remaining live when it's 100% clear it's self promotion.
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  • weeowens
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    MaineBlue wrote: »
    What if it is genuine and obvious self promotion Glad, rather than 'I suspect this is spam'? Shouldn't it be removed sooner rather than later, and thus a number members hitting 'spam' will remove it. Otherwise, the thread can lurk around for ages and in some cases an entire weekend (as the MSE Mods do take time off and don't monitor the site 24/7) meaning the work of the self promoter is achieved?
    Like this post by Neil Greaves Digital Manager at VisitBlackpool.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5043816
    MaineBlue wrote: »
    Exactly. Why is that still here 14 hours later? Surely that is better spammed than remaining live when it's 100% clear it's self promotion.


    Might we just leave the MSE admin team to do their work,in their own time?

    Let's just comp & not get too involved in the "back of house" stuff,especially online shouting about miscreants.

    Report to MSE admin & move on is my view.

    I agree that spam & self promotion are not the same & we should not use a function of this forum for what is not intended for.
  • weeowens
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    I do as mentioned here.
  • MaineBlue
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    weeowens wrote: »
    Might we just leave the MSE admin team to do their work,in their own time?
    Clearly they are really busy and haven't got to this one yet. MSE doesn't allow self promotion, not that that stops merchants self promoting so surely the members should assist when merchants abuse MSE this way.
    weeowens wrote: »
    Let's just comp & not get too involved in the "back of house" stuff,especially online shouting about miscreants.

    Report to MSE admin & move on is my view.
    Not mine though.
    weeowens wrote: »
    I agree that spam & self promotion are not the same & we should not use a function of this forum for what is not intended for.
    Then we need a new button for removing self promotion, if the spam button is not for this purpose. As I've said, the MSE mods must be way too busy on other things to worry about self promotion, otherwise that thread would have been removed a long time ago so where is the harm in members removing self promotion?
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  • mjm3346
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    Self promotion is NOT the same as spam


    The two are not mutually exclusive and self-promotion can be spam as well if it meets the spam criteria.
  • weeowens
    weeowens Posts: 81,990 Forumite
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    MaineBlue wrote: »
    Clearly they are really busy and haven't got to this one yet. MSE doesn't allow self promotion, not that that stops merchants self promoting so surely the members should assist when merchants abuse MSE this way.

    Not mine though.

    Then we need a new button for removing self promotion, if the spam button is not for this purpose. As I've said, the MSE mods must be way too busy on other things to worry about self promotion, otherwise that thread would have been removed a long time ago so where is the harm in members removing self promotion?
    mjm3346 wrote: »
    The two are not mutually exclusive and self-promotion can be spam as well if it meets the spam criteria.

    I'm sticking to my first opinion,ie just report & move on.

    We all can see spam as spam & self promotion as another thing so just play it as we see it.

    I'm sure that MSE admin will soon get in touch if any of us play silly with the definitions :-)
  • Marg2k8
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    There is something I would like clarificationa about. If somebody posts some competitions on here and then somebody else realises that they have been self-promoting and their posts are removed. If I then see some more competitions on that person's site, am I allowed to post them here, or is that effectively endorsing the self-promotion?
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