Baby next door crying non-stop!

GwylimT

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Your landlord cannot stop you from doing this unless there are health and safety issues. As long as you leave it in the same condition as you got the house they cannot prevent changes.

I don't have a landlord. We live in an apartment and all changes must be done after permission from the landlord, this prevents idiots moving in and deciding to fit hard floors etc.

Morglin

notanewuser wrote: »

Has the OP said that?

Yeah, screaming baby, screaming older child and mother yelling is not what I would call normal!

Lin

notanewuser

GwylimT wrote: »

I don't have a landlord. We live in an apartment and all changes must be done after permission from the landlord, this prevents idiots moving in and deciding to fit hard floors etc.

:huh: :huh:

GwylimT

notanewuser wrote: »

:huh: :huh:

It's a flat, so you don't have a landlord when purchasing, but the head of our management company is technically a landlord as he owns all outdoor areas. Been usual in all flats I have lived in, so didn't realise that it wouldn't be clear, sorry.

Morglin

thorsoak wrote: »

I am heartily sick and tired of this thread : it seems that there are two camps - the camp which contains the poor benighted parents who are - or who have experienced the torment of a child that cannot be pacified - and the camp which demands peace and quiet at all times and who demand that their rights and needs overwhelm any other circumstances.

I'm very sad to realise that on this board there are so many people who feel that their rights are paramount and anyone who dares to have a child should consider the feelings of their neighbour over and above all else.

And for the argument that parents should sound proof their homes when a child screams and screams and screams ....words fail me!

Why not just demand that screaming children are exterminated? The parents should have known better than to procreate!

I think any parent can sympathise with those that have restless and screaming babies - but we also need to sympathise with neighbours who had no choice, in this birth, and who are inflicted with noise all the time.

Parents of babies have no more rights or importance than anyone else - although nowadays, one way and another some of them seem to think no one counts, other than them or their kids.

We have all been there, but it is the responsibility of parents to ensure their offspring are not disrupting the lives of others,

Lin

notanewuser

GwylimT wrote: »

It's a flat, so you don't have a landlord when purchasing, but the head of our management company is technically a landlord as he owns all outdoor areas. Been usual in all flats I have lived in, so didn't realise that it wouldn't be clear, sorry.

You mean that you own a leasehold flat and would need permission from the owner of the freehold to make changes to the walls? As opposed to someone that was renting a property and would need permission from the owner (landlord)?

mellymoo74

Morglin wrote: »

I think any parent can sympathise with those that have restless and screaming babies - but we also need to sympathise with neighbours who had no choice, in this birth, and who are inflicted with noise all the time.

Parents of babies have no more rights or importance than anyone else - although nowadays, one way and another some of them seem to think no one counts, other than them or their kids.

We have all been there, but it is the responsibility of parents to ensure their offspring are not disrupting the lives of others,

Lin

We have a little un above us, he was colicky and now is at the running around jumping off stuff stage. Its hell. Talking nicely to mum and dad didn't work ear plugs do (I have been late for work due to not hearing my alarm though)

Nicki

I think with respect Morglin you haven't all been there and that is the problem. There is a world of difference between parenting a newborn who cries occasionally and can be soothed (in which case taking them out for a walk when they are unsettled is not unreasonable) and parenting a child who cries almost all the time.

Let's assume Lulu gets home from work at 6pm in the evenings. She says she is disturbed every night until around 11. So do the parents need to take their baby out between 6pm and 11pm every week day and from 9am to 11pm at weekends? Where is open at that time of night where a screaming baby can be tolerated? Is the genuine suggestion that the baby should be outside in the open air irrespective of the weather until 11pm every night otherwise the parents are being selfish?

It's a terrible situation for everyone. Even those of us who have had children like this can see that. But what is a sensible solution? With respect making the family effectively homeless and wandering the streets isn't it.

As for the attacks on thorsoak why is it wrong for her to share that 40 years later she still finds this upsetting. Some posters have suggested a variety of ways of approaching the neighbours. I think it is very valuable for the OP to know that the neighbours could be very fragile and vulnerable and therefore that they may not react in the way she might think.

thorsoak

Thanks for defending me Nicki - I'm big enough and ugly enough to take the vitriol that has been chucked at me on this thread!

I was extremely surprised at just how upset I felt last night, and how the feelings I experienced all those years ago surfaced. It proves how much a crying baby can leave one feeling absolutely helpless and unable to cope on anything but the most basic of levels.

I appreciate that it must be horrendous for anyone who experiences it at second hand - but to take the attitude that any parent should sound-proof their home before having a baby just takes the biscuit!

And now, I'm out of here! Lulu and all the other childless posters who may have children in the future - I wish you well - and would not wish a persistantly crying baby on my worst enemy - let alone any of you.

Nicki

I had 7 months of it nearly 5 years ago thorsoak so I completely get how you feel (then and now). I think like many things in life you need to walk a mile in those shoes to fully understand the toll it takes.

That said I look at my happy healthy 5 year old now and smile every time I see him and those days are over. As for you with your grown up children. Thankfully . xx