Boss shouting at work

topdaddy_2

Probbably not far off there. Some sort of primeval who roars loudest leads the pride kinda thing.

BillJones

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

Read bits of the thread again.

I've never suggested its ok to shout in the army. Its there early in the thread.

As to the chip its not right for anyone to shout at anyone.

Its imperative and commonsense that the boss should be above this and I don't understand how people are leading any defence of it.

You do seem to have a mighty large chip on your shoulder about management, and I'm afraid that your attitude comes across as petulant far more than it coming across as sticking up for yourself.

May I ask, do you not find that an antagonistic attitude like this holds you back in your career?

BillJones

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

Wrong again.

Stop making excuses for bosses SHOUTING at employees.

Whether this case is fact or fiction its taught me something; its a damn shame, that trade unions have had their teeth pulled.

You need to understand that your view on shouting is not shared by everyone else. You seem unable to comprehend this, and are becoming both aggressive and patronising with those who disagree. I'm a patient man, and also quite a senior one. Although there's no chance that you've ever worked for me, I suspect that you are antagonistic enough at work that I'd shout at you if you ever did.
Land I'd not accept that there was anything wrong about it. Some people simply won't listen unless you make your feelings clear, unfortunately.

topdaddy_2

BillJones wrote: »

You need to understand that your view on shouting is not shared by everyone else. You seem unable to comprehend this, and are becoming both aggressive and patronising with those who disagree. I'm a patient man, and also quite a senior one. Although there's no chance that you've ever worked for me, I suspect that you are antagonistic enough at work that I'd shout at you if you ever did.
Land I'd not accept that there was anything wrong about it. Some people simply won't listen unless you make your feelings clear, unfortunately.

Also the irony of the word shouting written in capitals means it is bing"shouted" hence displaying why people feel the need to shout o get messages across:rotfl:

27col

TSW wow! She is certainly a one trick pony. "Managers mustn't shout".
Well we got that message loud and clear. Even though almost no-one on here seems to agree with TSW.

Twopints

BillJones wrote: »

...Some people simply won't listen unless you make your feelings clear, unfortunately.

And you are incapable of doing that without shouting?

BillJones

Twopints wrote: »

And you are incapable of doing that without shouting?

In over 99% of occasions, shouting is unnecessary and inappropriate. Once in my while, it is the right response.

The last time was over a decade ago, when I needed a price from a colleague who was on a personal phone call. A deal worth £100k was about to slip by if I did not get the number I needed immediately, and so I shouted, as an urgent tone of voice had not got through quickly enough.

RuthnJasper

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

You really are barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm an ae and the accusation sucks. You need to apologise for it.

I'll argue what I think is right.

I repeat-the employee should not have taken the time off unauthorised. But I don't see that as a criminal offence.

But shouting at someone In the workplace is wrong. You wouldn't do it in the street so don't do it there.

Whether these events ever took place only the op knows that. I have to take it on what we are given

I agree with Bill Jones, and find TSW's determination to cherry-pick what was right/wrong in the original scenario presented and others' opinions on it most bizarre.

In the meantime, the OP (who could well be genuine) is long gone and unlikely to return or possibly seek advice from here again, put off by piecemeal and argumentative posts.

superbigal36

I suspect the job is in the public sector where is it not a perk of the job to fiddle flexi time ?

RuthnJasper

superbigal36 wrote: »

I suspect the job is in the public sector where is it not a perk of the job to fiddle flexi time ?

That occurred to me too.