Boss shouting at work

trollopscarletwoman

adindas wrote: »

lincroft1710 wrote: »

Utter tosh ...
There is no evidence, news , etc that people been sacked for 20 minutes AWOL especially without previous written warning. People are going AWOL like this all the time for instance going outside to smoke, buy a cigarettes in the shop, go to coffeeshop / coffee machine across the road during working hours, coming late or going home early in one or two occasions. In many offices it is tolerable considering that it works both ways. Quite often employees are also leaving office 10-20 minutes late, come early in the office to prepare of attend a meeting because requirement of the job without getting paid.

Instant dismissal or Sackable offense is something to do with gross misconduct. Typically the things such as theft or fraud, physical violence, gross negligence, incapacity due to alcohol or illegal drugs, and serious insubordination, committing fraud, falsified or manipulating the data.

Not with minor mistakes (bad behavior) like this. Also there has to be a. clear from its disciplinary rules and standards of conduct in the workplace, backed up by a fair disciplinary procedure. Here is the link to differentiate between bad behavior and gross misconduct .

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3905

If it was in emergency service such as firestation, in the hospital, it might be different.

The posts are getting mixed up.

I never wrote that.

lincroft1710

What the ffff is going on here???

I am being quoted as writing a post starting "Utter tosh...."

I NEVER use the word "tosh"

trollopscarletwoman

lincroft1710 wrote: »

What the ffff is going on here???

I am being quoted as writing a post starting "Utter tosh...."

I NEVER use the word "tosh"

Yes, something is going on.

RuthnJasper

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

Wrong again.

Stop making excuses for bosses SHOUTING at employees.

Whether this case is fact or fiction its taught me something; its a damn shame, that trade unions have had their teeth pulled.

Ironically, you have now "shouted" at Roz.

Why are you so determined to argue with everyone? More to the point, I strongly suspect that you and the OP are one and the same person; I cannot otherwise account for the fact that you are so persistent in nettling people about this issue whilst disregarding the ongoing misdemeanours of the "errant colleague".

trollopscarletwoman

RuthnJasper wrote: »

Ironically, you have now "shouted" at Roz.

Why are you so determined to argue with everyone? More to the point, I strongly suspect that you and the OP are one and the same person; I cannot otherwise account for the fact that you are so persistent in nettling people about this issue whilst disregarding the ongoing misdemeanours of the "errant colleague".

You really are barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm an ae and the accusation sucks. You need to apologise for it.

I'll argue what I think is right.

I repeat-the employee should not have taken the time off unauthorised. But I don't see that as a criminal offence.

But shouting at someone In the workplace is wrong. You wouldn't do it in the street so don't do it there.

Whether these events ever took place only the op knows that. I have to take it on what we are given

notanewuser

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

You really are barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm an ae and the accusation sucks. You need to apologise for it.

I'll argue what I think is right.

I repeat-the employee should not have taken the time off unauthorised. But I don't see that as a criminal offence.

But shouting at someone In the workplace is wrong. You wouldn't do it in the street so don't do it there.

Whether these events ever took place only the op knows that. I have to take it on what we are given

It's a criminal offence. It's also gross misconduct.

Shouting isn't a criminal offence either. Nor is it gross misconduct. (That's IF it happened. Odds are it didn't.)

mattcanary

People shout at others on the street sometimes.


It doesn;t mean they get arrested for it.


People can get arrested for committing fraud. Which is what OP's friend has done.

trollopscarletwoman

mattcanary wrote: »

People shout at others on the street sometimes.


It doesn;t mean they get arrested for it.


People can get arrested for committing fraud. Which is what OP's friend has done.

The fraud squad are on it now.

Work on what the op was.

Being shouted at in the workplace.

Not acceptable.

trollopscarletwoman

notanewuser wrote: »

It's a criminal offence. It's also gross misconduct.

Shouting isn't a criminal offence either. Nor is it gross misconduct. (That's IF it happened. Odds are it didn't.)

Going by you none of its an offence as it didn't happen.

trollopscarletwoman

mattcanary wrote: »

People shout at others on the street sometimes.


It doesn;t mean they get arrested for it.


People can get arrested for committing fraud. Which is what OP's friend has done.

That's my point.

Shout at others in the street you are likely to get a good hiding.