Boys using ladies loos

fed_up_and_stressed

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

There's usually an accessible one (or two) toilets and one or two general ones.

Then the general ones should be used

Using Hawk30's example -

Hawk30 has acknowleged from their own post that they they could use the general toilet but chooses to use the disabled toilet as they didn't want to leave the pram outside.


I have to take my wheelchair in and can not use the general loo.

fed_up_and_stressed

hawk30 wrote: »

I will always do what is safest for my child and if there were no standard toilets where I could take my pram and child, then I would use the disabled ones. I don't care if that makes me selfish.

Have you not thought about a fold up pram so you can take this and the child into a general loo rather than using disabled facilities?

Buzzybee90

fed_up_and_stressed wrote: »

Then the general ones should be used

Using Hawk30's example -

Hawk30 has acknowleged from their own post that they they could use the general toilet but chooses to use the disabled toilet as they didn't want to leave the pram outside.


I have to take my wheelchair in and can not use the general loo.

They're not earmarked for disabled people, they don't have priority in a queue. It's just so if someone in a wheelchair etc gets on they can use it if needs be.

Indie_Kid

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

There's usually an accessible one (or two) toilets and one or two general ones.

Interesting. Can't say I've really noticed that before.

hawk30

fed_up_and_stressed wrote: »

Then the general ones should be used

Using Hawk30's example -

Hawk30 has acknowleged from their own post that they they could use the general toilet but chooses to use the disabled toilet as they didn't want to leave the pram outside.


I have to take my wheelchair in and can not use the general loo.

No, I've never said I could use the general toilet. It's not safe/practical (or at least it wasn't when she was very little). As as for the suggestion of a fold-up pram, babies have to lie flat for about the first 6 month and the prams with carry cot/flat compartments don't generally fold up.

fed_up_and_stressed

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

They're not earmarked for disabled people, they don't have priority in a queue. It's just so if someone in a wheelchair etc gets on they can use it if needs be.

Disabled toilets are earmarked for disabled people though ! they tend to have this symbol



It is also why often unattended toilets have radar key locks on them so that they can not be abuse by people not entitled to use them !

fed_up_and_stressed

hawk30 wrote: »

No, I've never said I could use the general toilet. It's not safe/practical (or at least it wasn't when she was very little). As as for the suggestion of a fold-up pram, babies have to lie flat for about the first 6 month and the prams with carry cot/flat compartments don't generally fold up.

What you wrote was

hawk30 wrote: »

And if they don't have a sling? Or the baby (like mine) screams blue murder if you try and put them in one?

Now my LO can walk, i'd be happy to use the non-disabled facilities. But not when I would have had to hold her.

So your child can walk and therefore use a general loo its that she screams which is why you don't. So the argument about lying flat is no longer applicable to you then.

You don't like your child shouting ..but it is not a necessity that you have to use a disabled loo.

Buzzybee90

fed_up_and_stressed wrote: »

What you wrote was



So your child can walk and therefore use a general loo its that she screams which is why you don't. So the arguement about lying flat is no longer applicable to you then.

She wasn't talking about now!

iammumtoone

fed_up_and_stressed wrote: »

Disabled toilets are earmarked for disabled people though ! they tend to have this symbol



It is also why often unattended toilets have radar key locks on them so that they can not be abuse by people not entitled to use them !

I think that sign is actually causing some of the conflict. It shows a person on a wheelchair however not all disabled people need to use a wheelchair, some to look at them you wouldn't know were disabled. My friend has bowel problems she is entailed to a radar key and to use the toilets. However many would look at her coming out and wrongly assume she was one of the people we are discussing in this thread that used the toilet as it was convenient. She also has a child and I am sure would have taken her child in the toilet with the pram when they were young.

How do you know that the person coming out of the toilet (even if they have a pram/child(ren)) didn't have the right to be in there, just because they are not using a wheelchair doesn't mean they were not entitled to use the disabled facilities.

hawk30

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

She wasn't talking about now!

Yes, exactly buzzybee! I'm talking about when she was very little.

Anyway, I think I have to agree to disagree with some of you as GBBO is about to start. Please be assured that I will continue not to park in disabled spaces (and be cross with those that do) and happily give priority to those who I am aware need it. I will, however, defend a person's right (as I perceive it) to use the disabled toilets when they have a young baby and a pram, when there is no such facility in the baby changing rooms.