Tesco consider adding the points of discarded receipt as theft

powerful_Rogue

Cornucopia wrote: »

Does it state anywhere that receipts are not transferable for the purpose of claiming the points? That would be clarity.

In the terms and conditions you have to agree to when you sign up for a clubcard.

Members must present their Clubcard card or key fob at the checkout in order to collect points for a transaction in store. Members who forget to do this may have their points added manually up to 14 days after the transaction upon production of a valid receipt, providing the receipt belongs to the claiming member and is based on their personal spend. Points may only be claimed for up to two receipts per day.

Cornucopia wrote: »

Does it state anywhere that Tescos believe (whether it is true or not) that Clubcard points can be stolen, and that will treat such an offence as if it were theft?

Its called common sense. I would like to think the majority of people understand that if you try to claim something that wasn't issued to your or belongs to you is fraud. The law is very clear on this, as already pointed out several times.

Cornucopia

That's fine, but that would be the obvious place to discuss the notion that Tescos believe they have value, and will act to protect said value using Criminal and/or Civil law.

Cornucopia

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Its called common sense. I would like to think the majority of people understand that if you try to claim something that wasn't issued to your or belongs to you is fraud. The law is very clear on this, as already pointed out several times.

As I said, I have done this many times with Morrisons Vouchers. Indeed, there is a thriving market for them on eBay.

So, no, it is not common sense. And if Tescos value their Clubcard points, the most obvious thing is for them to do is to take better care of them.

subboy2

wishus wrote: »

Hey guys, you just disagree on the issue is all.

No one is being pig-headed or over-opinionated anymore than anyone else. And yes, that includes me. It doesn't really matter at the end of the day.

OP is quiet now... probably off to buy a false nose and glasses to do his big shop.

She sells sea shells on the sea shore.

powerful_Rogue

Cornucopia wrote: »

That's fine, but that would be the obvious place to discuss the notion that Tescos believe they have value, and will act to protect said value using Criminal and/or Civil law.

Of course they have value, that's why people collect them. That's why many people such as myself purchase everything using a Tesco credit card to collect the extra points.

Theres threads on this forum dating back to 2007 where Tesco were sending out cease and desist letters to people actively finding and claiming points that didn't belong to them. Seven years later they appear to be banning people from the store that still take part in this activity.

powerful_Rogue

Cornucopia wrote: »

As I said, I have done this many times with Morrisons Vouchers. Indeed, there is a thriving market for them on eBay.

So, no, it is not common sense. And if Tescos value their Clubcard points, the most obvious thing is for them to do is to take better care of them.

http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/Money-scam-netted-pound-2-000-store-worker/story-17050432-detail/story.html

Cornucopia

Interesting. Though that case was clearly about the misappropriation of money, rather than points.

As I said, I received a Morrisons voucher from another shopper at a till, with the full knowledge of the cashier.

powerful_Rogue

Cornucopia wrote: »

Interesting. Though that case was clearly about the misappropriation of money, rather than points.

As I said, I received a Morrisons voucher from another shopper at a till, with the full knowledge of the cashier.

Make no difference that it was money. The law states:

to make a gain for himself or another

No mention of money is mentioned.

In regards to your Morrison experience, that wouldnt meet the criteria of that specific offence.

A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a)dishonestly makes a false representation,

You wasnt being dishonest as you didnt claim the voucher was yours and the cashier knew this.

dzug1

Cornucopia wrote: »

As I said, I have done this many times with Morrisons Vouchers. Indeed, there is a thriving market for them on eBay.

So, no, it is not common sense. And if Tescos value their Clubcard points, the most obvious thing is for them to do is to take better care of them.

There's a little bit of a difference - Morrisons' vouchers are not tied to an identifiable individual, Tesco points are.


Easiest thing for Tesco to do is to say that you can't add the points if you forgot your card. Nice easy rule that doesn't allow of discretion

lucy03

Cornucopia wrote: »

No. That didn't happen. The security guard apprehended the OP before the OP attempted to add them to the Clubcard, IIUC.

There are three issues of law, here:

1) Whether the notional value of virtual loyalty points is equal in law to the loss of actual money or goods.

2) Whether the loss is demonstrated because Tesco had already agreed to give the points to the original purchaser - and therefore a claim of the points by someone else is not a net loss to Tesco.

3) Whether this is an offence which has an "attempted" variant, and whether the actions of the OP amounted to an "attempt", because they certainly didn't amount to the full offence.

IMO none of these are issues in law. If someone shop-lifts from Tesco or steals their Clubcard Points, then Tesco are entitled to ban them from their stores. There is no debate which Tesco needs to engage in regarding this.