US and European airlines halt Israel flights

Froggitt

redpete wrote: »

The rockets fired by Hamas are inaccurate ground-ground weapons. The missile that brought down the Malaysian jet is far more sophisticated and not the sort of weapon that would be 'got hold of' by terrorists without help from major state.

Where do you think Palestinian terrorists got hold of ten thousand rockets from? Or the components to make ten thousand missiles, including ones that can reach 100 miles away? Iran? Im sure Iran also has Buk missile launchers or their equivalent. What if Iran smuggled Buk launchers (or shoulder based launchers) into Gaza on a ship similar to the Turkish ship that the Israelis intercepted a couple of years ago?


Palestinians are cheering the launch of indiscriminate rockets aimed at Israeli civilians. The world should act alongside Israel to terminate the terrorist thread, rather than criticising a country for protecting its citizens.

cool_dude_2000

Froggitt wrote: »

Palestinians are cheering the launch of indiscriminate rockets aimed at Israeli civilians.

So true. Check out the picture of sick people celebrating the attacks on innocent people.

Umm... hold on... actually it depicts Israelis in Sderot, gathered on a hill to watch and celebrate Gaza being bombed. Oh dear.

Froggitt

Do you have any idea how many rockets have been fired at Sderot the past few years? A civilian area with no military base.


Unlike schools and hospitals in Gaza, which are used to shield rocket launchers. On the news the other day, they were interviewing a doctor in a Gaza hospital......the interview had to stop for a few seconds while a rocket was fired from outside the window. This is criminal.

NiftyDigits

Froggitt wrote: »

Do you have any idea how many rockets have been fired at Sderot the past few years? A civilian area with no military base.


Unlike schools and hospitals in Gaza, which are used to shield rocket launchers. On the news the other day, they were interviewing a doctor in a Gaza hospital......the interview had to stop for a few seconds while a rocket was fired from outside the window. This is criminal.

What has that to do with the contents of the picture?
Why is it that you feel the need to demonise, rather than to look plainly upon the facts?
Why ignore the rally of Israelis marching in the streets, chanting "I hate all Arabs"?
Even if people were firing rockets from the hospital(most certainly ineffectual), go in with ground troops, to eliminate the threat. Don't fire rockets at the hospital, killing hundreds of civilians. That is state terrorism and certainly criminal.

cool_dude_2000

Froggitt wrote: »

Do you have any idea how many rockets have been fired at Sderot the past few years? A civilian area with no military base.


Unlike schools and hospitals in Gaza, which are used to shield rocket launchers. On the news the other day, they were interviewing a doctor in a Gaza hospital......the interview had to stop for a few seconds while a rocket was fired from outside the window. This is criminal.

Your post is so hilariously funny I could laugh if it werent tragic.

I have given up trying to debate Israeli propaganda. Not least because no one actually believes it any more, including traditional Israeli supporters. But also because I believe you want to believe its true and nothing can convince you otherwise.

The difference between me and you is that I value all innocent life, whereas its clear you consider Israeli life to be greater.

Froggitt

Not at all. Hamas doesn't value Palestinian lives by deliberately placing rocket launchers in civilian areas......where they know Israel will attack. Remember Saddam Hussain and his human shields......the world didn't like that, but they appear to condone Hamas doing it.


Whereas, Hamas launch rockets indiscriminately at Israeli civilians.


From mid-June 2007 to mid-February 2008, 771 rockets and 857 mortar bombs were fired at Sderot and the western Negev,


What if that was London - do you think Cameron would stand by and not attack wherever those rockets were coming from?

cool_dude_2000

There is one flaw in your argument. That is it's not true.

http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/07/jeremy-bowens-gaza-notebook-i-saw-no-evidence-hamas-using-palestinians-human

Even the UN confirmed the absence of rockets in their buildings. It didn't stop Israelis bombing it whilst children were sleeping. Disgraceful.

And the problem with the London analogy is that - is was bombed during the 80s and 90s when it was under IRA attack. Even the British Prime Minister herself was attacked! However, not one single missile was launched against Irish civilians. Something you conveniently overlook.

Try engaging your brain to think and research. You might surprise yourself.

Froggitt

Name one other country in the world that sends SMS messages, makes phone calls, drops leaflets, and fires empty missiles as a warning shot, telling civilians to get out before the real missile arrives. Their objective is to minimise civilian casualties.


And there were plenty of tunnels and launchers found by/under/in houses in the current Gaza incursion.


And I am sure there will be an investigation as to why a UN building was targeted. Where are the Palestinian investigations every time an Israeli town is bombed?


And I can assure that if Ireland was launching rockets on London from Dublin, that those parts of Dublin would have been razed to the ground.

cool_dude_2000

Ok, I see you have the Israeli PR textbook and are reading it line by line. Im surprised you havent used the idioism yet of there was no Palestine before, that always makes me laugh at the ignorance of some people.

Firstly, the fact that you're sending SMS and phone calls before launching a missile 30 seconds later is kinda like a murderer giving a victim warning before hand, or a rapist giving prior warning. There's a reason no other country does it. Its because IT - IS - WRONG.

Secondly, where do you suppose they're going to go once you have given them warning? Its the largest outdoor prison in the world, and now you've confiscated more land by creating a buffer zone with the latest incursion. You've sealed the borders, Egypt is no go territory, and there is a naval blockade by the Israelis. Even the UN, schools and hospitals arent safe as Israeli has violated the sanctity and bombed them.

And please lets not talk about investigations. Tell me - what was the outcome of the Israeli investigation whe you bombed the UN during operation Cast Lead? Do you even know?

And no, Dublin wouldn't be razed to the ground. Because it wasnt when London was bombed.

Froggitt

1 - why the "you"
2 - rockets weren't fired from Dublin
3 - there is no victim if they move away from the rocket launch site
4 - wouldn't need a buffer if Hamas weren't using it to fire rockets
5 - Hamas are now pariahs of the world, and have even lost the support of iran and Syria - I don't know why people like you continue to condone their terrorist actions.....I guess its also ok to murder scousers in the street, put IEDs by the road in Southampton, and fire missiles at civilian airplanes.