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How would the UK fare without Scotland?
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I think you've missed something somewhere - I'm English, born and bred and my husband is English, born and bred.
My apologies, I may have confused you with another poster.That's why I've been targeted with racist comments, attacking me because I'm English but having the temerity to actually live in Scotland.
I very much dobt this, however if tru, I'd suggest this is the minority.Paying a heck of a lot of tax and national insurance,
Do you not believe you should be paying this?.contributing to the community and to music and the performing arts,
Is this just in the last couple of years.
Did you move to Scotland and have not settled, hence you want to move back?Even professional colleagues are getting on the bandwagon now - snide comments often made in company and with a laugh to try to make it a joke
Is it meant in humour?
Do you not understand the satirical humour or banter of the Scots.
Certainly no-one should feel persecuted, so why not go to HR?meetings peppered with side or sotto voce remarks, or planning for when we're independent, not if. Both of us just keep quiet and brush it off as passions running rather too high at the moment.
Either laugh it off as banter or as I said above, if you feel persecuted, bring it to the attention of your line manager / HR and this will be stopped.As I suggested to your fellow sympathiser, Gramscian notions of hegemony would be an enlightening read.
I may look this up in the fuure if I have the inclination to follow up on your suggestion and have some spare time to do so.
Incidentally, My wife and I have a friend who graduated with my wife who is a Professor.
She lived in Guildford for a number of years and returned to near Edinburgh last year.
She mentioned the "banter" was live and kicking in England as well which she could give as good as she got (she's quite feisty really). She returned to Scotland having made lots of friends and colleagues to which they still regularly meet up.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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I'm just saying that when you are targeted, it's rather disturbing and unsettling. Particularly when the most frequent abuser is accompanied by a huge and aggressive rotweiler!
This cannot be good and I sympathise.
Have you reported this to the police?
Is this one person clouding your perception of others who may not be meaning it in the same light.
How long have you been in Scotland. Was you perception of living in Scotland different back then?We hadn't encountered this until the past year.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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I think you've missed something somewhere - I'm English, born and bred and my husband is English, born and bred. That's why I've been targeted with racist comments, attacking me because I'm English but having the temerity to actually live in Scotland. Paying a heck of a lot of tax and national insurance, contributing to the community and to music and the performing arts, improving the prospects of tens of thousands of young people.
Even professional colleagues are getting on the bandwagon now - snide comments often made in company and with a laugh to try to make it a joke, meetings peppered with side or sotto voce remarks, or planning for when we're independent, not if. Both of us just keep quiet and brush it off as passions running rather too high at the moment.
As I suggested to your fellow sympathiser, Gramscian notions of hegemony would be an enlightening read.
When we lived in Scotland we came in for a bit of stick (quite a lot) from some people, but by no means everyone. It was mainly aimed at OH - I'm from Northumberland and seemed to classed as less "English". Some of it was banter and some of it wasn't.
However, I used to laugh it off and try and turn it into a joke. I took it all as banter regardless of intent.
Some of our friends were staunch nationalists and we had many an argument during our "tour of Scotland" (drinking different malts after dinner) but it didn't affect our friendship.
I enjoyed our years in Scotland (although I was convinced I wouldn't) and I would move back.
We moved to Scotland not long after the 1979 referendum on devolution...and some feelings were running pretty high then too. People thought they had been robbed - a majority voted yes but the number of voters was below the 40% required to vote.
If you are suffering physical intimidation then report it.
If I was a nationalist I would probably be saying "when" and not "if" too. It's what they want to happen and at the moment "if" probably isn't in their vocabulary. I think it's difficult for people who aren't nationalist (me) to really understand what it means to those that are.0 -
IveSeenTheLight wrote: »I very much dobt this, however if tru, I'd suggest this is the minority.
When faced with something you don't want to see, you just cast doubt on it.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Did you move to Scotland and have not settled, hence you want to move back?.
So now it's the fact that we haven't settled, is it? 22 years...IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Is it meant in humour?
Do you not understand the satirical humour or banter of the Scots?
No, it isn't meant in humour.
Yes, we understand the satirical humour or banter of the Scots perfectly well and have joined in for many years now.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Certainly no-one should feel persecuted, so why not go to HR?
We don't all live in corporate worlds where there are HR departments!
I'm making a promise to myself - DO NOT READ THIS THREAD ANY MORE. The narrowness of some posters' perceptions, lack of acceptance of other people's lives and views, stridency, and general lack of sensitivity is very sad to witness.
Although it has made me very glad that we live in our world.MumOf4Quit Date: 20th November 2009, 7pm
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