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How would the UK fare without Scotland?

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  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    samsam89 wrote: »
    ....It's like having an affair and returning home everyday to use the family car.

    It's like getting a divorce, but insisting that your spouse is still obliged to continue living in the same house with you.
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    antrobus wrote: »
    It's like getting a divorce, but insisting that your spouse is still obliged to continue living in the same house with you.

    LOL, that analogy may indeed hold true in some parts of Britain.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    The thing is, Alec Salmond doesn't get to decide what's best for the UK if Scotland votes for independence.

    He goes with a proposal of what's best for Scotland and see if this is acceptable during negotiations.

    I'd expect some give and take on a number of issues.
    He couldn't have inferred anything. He might have implied it.

    Ok, ok. I inferred. He implied

    Let's not go back to the dark days in these forums.
    However, I don't think anyone necessarily says it is categorically ruled out.
    Many, including Better Together MP's have in the past.
    It's important to be clear this will be available for negotiation.
    I'd have absolutely no problem with Scotland using the pound. But I wouldn't expect decisions to be made about the currency taking Scotland into account any more than any other important neighbour and trading partner. Nor would it be reasonable to expect the UK to guarantee Scotland's borrowing or banks.

    I'd expect that too.
    A good part of negotiating is to start of higher than your goal and concede back to the level you want to be at. ;)
    What's the point of independence if you still want Mummy to hold your hand if the big boys are being mean to you?

    No need. No need.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • .string.
    .string. Posts: 2,733 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • .string.
    .string. Posts: 2,733 Forumite
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    ..........A good part of negotiating is to start of higher than your goal and concede back to the level you want to be at........
    Two points:

    1 Have you actually ever done any negotiating? A much more valuable tactic is to make sure you don't make any demands which are so easily shown up as untenable; it can be difficult to be a credible negotiator after that.

    2 The SNP's statement on that is not actually for negotiation purposes, it is for persuading the Scottish people (*) that the SNP has some solid economic strategies behind their daydreams. They continually show their deficiencies.

    (*) unless of course one is cynical enough to actually believe they don't care if they put false statements out there regardless of who they con. .... come to think of it ....
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • .string.
    .string. Posts: 2,733 Forumite
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    Anyone here know anything about currency values and how that is affected by confidence?

    I wonder how much the "Pound" bank printed in Scotland will be worth the day after a "Yes" vote.

    I suspect very little and wonder how long before it's zilch. 2 weeks? 2 months? Salmond Day??

    If I had any of those things I would be dumping them well before the referendum date.
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite
    .string. wrote: »
    Anyone here know anything about currency values and how that is affected by confidence?

    I wonder how much the "Pound" bank printed in Scotland will be worth the day after a "Yes" vote.

    I suspect very little and wonder how long before it's zilch. 2 weeks? 2 months? Salmond Day??

    If I had any of those things I would be dumping them well before the referendum date.

    How do you work that out? Let me guess. The great mighty [STRIKE]England[/STRIKE] rotUK will cast its magic wand and we will all be doomed to a life of misery.

    Scotland is capable of being a successful independent Country despite what some bitter folk would have you believe.

    I don't understand the bitterness. Why not work hand in hand with Scotland to the better of Scotland and the UK.

    According to most on here Scotland has been a drain on England and you should be happy to let us go.
  • .string.
    .string. Posts: 2,733 Forumite
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    sss555s wrote: »
    How do you work that out? Let me guess. The great mighty [STRIKE]England[/STRIKE] rotUK will cast its magic wand and we will all be doomed to a life of misery.

    Scotland is capable of being a successful independent Country despite what some bitter folk would have you believe.

    I don't understand the bitterness. Why not work hand in hand with Scotland to the better of Scotland and the UK.

    According to most on here Scotland has been a drain on England and you should be happy to let us go.
    On the first two paragraphs, my query about the Scottish pound notes is clear enough; for the rest the answer is, quite simply, "Better Together"

    On the third para, no-one is bitter, yet.

    On the last para, that's not how I feel.

    Oh by the way .... "rotUK" !!! a bit of anti-English/British SNPism poking through methinks.
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite
    .string. wrote: »

    Oh by the way .... "rotUK" !!! a bit of anti-English/British SNPism poking through methinks.

    SNPism!?!?

    That's a new one on me.

    rotUK stands for rest of the UK
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    sss555s wrote: »
    SNPism!?!?

    That's a new one on me.

    rotUK stands for rest of the UK



    oh dear:
    the bitterness of 700 years really rots the soul
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