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How would the UK fare without Scotland?

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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Apologies if anyone has posted this before, but there is a short course coming up on the pros and cons of Scottish Independence aimed at giving people a better knowledge of the arguments. Starts later this month if anyone is interested:

    https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/indyref

    Thanks, fascinating.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    I only wish those of us living in England could vote on whether Scotland should be independent, too.

    I've vote "yes" definitely.

    Scottish politicians appear even more whingy and annoying than English ones.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • beecher2
    beecher2 Posts: 3,677 Forumite
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    Shakethedisease wrote: »

    The Daily Record is softening it's stance considerably.. ( a sniff of the about to turn tail in recent days ? )
    ...

    I've been wondering the same recently

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/one-britains-most-celebrated-peace-3988975
    Vice President of CND UK Bruce Kent said a Yes vote in next month’s referendum would remove the Trident system from the Clyde and strike a blow for world peace.
    The comments are a significant boost for Alex Salmond as he prepares for tomorrow's crunch TV debate on independence with Better Together leader Alistair Darling.
    The First Minister is hoping to win votes by promising to remove Trident from the Faslane base if there is a Yes vote.
    London-based Kent (85) is a poster boy for the anti-nuclear cause and is well respected across the UK.
    “It is quite clear that both the major Westminster parties have no intention, despite endless rhetoric, of negotiating their abolition or of getting rid of British nuclear weapons,” he said.
    “At a cost of £100 billion, which could so well be used for people’s real needs, they intend to replace Trident with yet another generation of weapons of mass destruction.
    “This is proof enough of how little concerned they are with the global elimination of nuclear weapons.
    “My personal view is that a Yes vote in September would lead to the removal of immoral and illegal Trident from Faslane and Scotland.”
    The comments come just days after the Daily Record revealed Scotland could employ an extra 2700 teachers or 3300 nurses if we got rid of Trident.

    Just a different tone to the one we've been used to.
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    neverdespairgirl wrote: »
    Scottish politicians appear even more whingy and annoying than English ones.

    Isn't it amazing how the media can influence someones perception?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    neverdespairgirl wrote: »
    I only wish those of us living in England could vote on whether Scotland should be independent, too.

    I've vote "yes" definitely.

    Interestingly, for you and those that thanked your view on this, do you not believe that we are "Better Together"?

    Do you disagree with the main parties in Westminster on this point?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    The comments come just days after the Daily Record revealed Scotland could employ an extra 2700 teachers or 3300 nurses if we got rid of Trident.

    I doubt people from the docks would make ideal material to retrain.

    Already a shortage of trained nurses. So finding another 3,300 would quite a challenge.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    IveSeenTheLight wrote: »
    Interestingly, for you and those that thanked your view on this, do you not believe that we are "Better Together"?

    Do you disagree with the main parties in Westminster on this point?

    I don't necessarily believe we are better together, no.


    IveSeenTheLight wrote: »
    Isn't it amazing how the media can influence someones perception?

    Isn't it amazing how it's possible to ascribe to media bias a view in someone else that one dislikes?
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    neverdespairgirl wrote: »
    Isn't it amazing how it's possible to ascribe to media bias a view in someone else that one dislikes?

    I do find it interesting that people accept media portrayal as fact as opposed to any direct impact / knowledge they personally have.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    neverdespairgirl wrote: »
    I only wish those of us living in England could vote on whether Scotland should be independent, too.

    I've vote "yes" definitely.

    Scottish politicians appear even more whingy and annoying than English ones.

    I would vote no as Scotland would be financially worse off if independent and prices would rise in Scotland
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    beecher2 wrote: »
    I've been wondering the same recently

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/one-britains-most-celebrated-peace-3988975



    Just a different tone to the one we've been used to.

    So higher unemployment for Scotland but more immigrant nurses Brought in
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
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