stop/start

atrixblue.-MFR-.

topdaddy wrote: »

Nothing i have said works like that? That the same as I have explained as to why? I dont have to explain anything.

so your trolling then!

RichardD1970

TD, you're not related to Hpuse by any chance are you? :rotfl:

F1F93

topdaddy wrote: »

6? I only see two items in red.

You said the bits in black. I disagree with all of these. To explain why I disagreed with it (if it needed explaining, most of them were hilariously obvious) I annotated it in red. What part of that don't you understand?

So there are 9 posts in the first four pages I disagree with. Two of them, I have annotated in red to explain my point further. Six of them mention the heater.

Really not rocket science.

IamNotAllowedToUseMyName

motorguy wrote: »

But we've covered that off



When using stop start, and the car has stopped -

IF the heater was previously on, then the car will use latent heat from the heater matrix for as long as it can, afterwhich the car will restart.

IF the heater was not previously on, and you put it on, the car will restart to enable it to build up the required heat in the heater matrix.

But that's not how it works! (Well, not on the Merc anyway). I did some checking around on how the residual engine heat utilisation (REST*) works and apparently it does have a small electric pump to circulate water to the heater even when the ignition is off. They've had this for 20 years on many Mercedes. It is therefore trivial to make the heating work with stop/start. I'd assume some other brands do the same. In other words, in a modern car, it may not be necessary to have an engine running to transfer engine heat to the heater radiator.

(Of course this has been said a few times and been ignored).

One of the things that manufacturers do is beef up the battery on stop/start versions to cope with all this stuff running when the engine is off, but Mercedes always had a pretty heavyweight battery in the first place (which sat in the boot in my old W202). Stop start systems monitor the battery and if power drops too far it'll restart.

So, on a Mercedes Stop Start system, it is quite feasible to be stopped, turn the heater on and nothing needs to happen as the pump moves the hot water from the engine to the heater. I would expect that system has been copied by other manufacturers.

If you see an older Mercedes, there are three buttons in a sort of I shape in the middle of the console. Press the bottom button with the ignition off after the engine has been running, and you will get hot air (if you turn the thermostat up, for the pedantic amongst you).

*No idea what the REST function acronym really stands for, but that's how the Germans present it).

topdaddy_2

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

so your trolling then!

Feel free to think what you like, but im lead to belive trolling dont work like that either. Google it.

topdaddy_2

RichardD1970 wrote: »

TD, you're not related to Hpuse by any chance are you? :rotfl:

Not as far as i know, never heard of them.

topdaddy_2

F1F93 wrote: »

You said the bits in black. I disagree with all of these. To explain why I disagreed with it (if it needed explaining, most of them were hilariously obvious) I annotated it in red. What part of that don't you understand?

So there are 9 posts in the first four pages I disagree with. Two of them, I have annotated in red to explain my point further. Six of them mention the heater.

Really not rocket science.

Really not clear either. A simple list of what i got wrong and you couldnt manage that. And from that list one thing is wrong, the career advice. Honestly I dont think whoever should give up ther job, it was a sarcastic reply to what Im presuming was not a serious offer if resignation, maybe this needs clarification for you?

atrixblue.-MFR-.

topdaddy wrote: »

Feel free to think what you like, but im lead to belive trolling dont work like that either. Google it.

your wrong!

motorguy

topdaddy wrote: »

Really not clear either. A simple list of what i got wrong and you couldnt manage that. And from that list one thing is wrong, the career advice. Honestly I dont think whoever should give up ther job, it was a sarcastic reply to what Im presuming was not a serious offer if resignation, maybe this needs clarification for you?

You jus t keep saying "it doesn't work like that" and after 15 pages of it nobody really knows what you are objecting to and I don't think you do either.

You just can't admit we're right.

You have come across as an idiot on this thread and others, but to you that seems to be better than agreeing with us or, god forbid admitting you were wrong

topdaddy_2

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

your wrong!

So trolling by definition is saying something you disagree with then? Im not so sure about that, im guessing you didnt google it then?:doh: