Since when did a Mongrel start getting posh names

Adora-Bell-Dearheart

We were just talking about this tonight! Apparently muttly is not a random cross fron the dogs trust but a 'beagador'... do you think there's someone who sits and makes these up?!

tealady

elsien wrote: »

I'm still working on my money making plan to cross a bull terrier and a shi tzu.

So that will be a terrier tzu then?;)

lostinrates

Person_one wrote: »

I'm always asked if one of mine is a cockapoo, no he's just a plain old boring poodle! Apparently people don't recognise them without the famous haircut anymore. I meet far more poodle crosses these days than actual poodles, you have to worry about where all the breeding b!tches are that are producing these first cross 'doodles' and 'poos'.

I'm a bit surprised the OP hasn't come across this before though, its been a trend in my area for at least 5 years, probably more.

(The cockatoos I meet do tend to have lovely temperaments, but my word I don't envy you having to deal with that coat!)

And poodles are such SUPER dogs. Bright, charming, practical for those with allergies ( reliably). In a different life I'd be very interested in standard poodles ...both in normal clips....where they look great, so workman like, but I'm not adverse to a poodle clip either. . I've always had a soft spot for those super dogs.

lostinrates

Adora-Bell-Dearheart wrote: »

We were just talking about this tonight! Apparently muttly is not a random cross fron the dogs trust but a 'beagador'... do you think there's someone who sits and makes these up?!

My neighbour asked me what her girl crossed my boy would be called and I answered 'unfortunate'.

White_Rose_Tight_ThaKnows

I would've loved to have known what my first dog - a rescue - was crossed between. He was just labelled as "Xbreed". So I think it helps for people to decide or understand or research if they know which breeds the dog is made up of.

But I hate portmanteaus anyway, so seeing these smashed up names is sometimes just downright confusing, a Jug is already a noun. I don't want to start pouring things out of a cross-breed dog.

We have one of the more well known cross-breeds and the pup was bought with intention - less MSE family member wanted this certain mix of dog - and that did come with an extra quid or two. But when people ask I don't use the smushed up name, I say what he is in full. However I'd be right up for adding a rescue to the family later down the line.

I suppose the choice of breeds and costing is no different to buying a car when it comes to choices and decision making; old car, new car, designer car, flash car, reliable car. Who could argue against all cars basically being the same?

warmhands.coldheart

Person_one wrote: »

... I'm a bit surprised the OP hasn't come across this before though, its been a trend in my area for at least 5 years, probably more.....

A country boy moved to the Big Bad City !!! .... Where I grew up the dogs were either Collie. German Shepherd, Labrador, Springer Spaniel.. or a mongrel... (combination of the aforementioned) !! none of this cockapoo nonsense !!

To me it really does seem to be down to a money making racket !!

Personally I have a lovely big German Shepherd, Pure Bred or so I've been told from a local "Good Authority" on the breed, no papers or the likes, got from the council dog shelter for a £10 donation....... Why people spend a fortune on dogs from breeders is beyond me as from what I can see it means nothing..... A previous neighbour paid about £600 for a KC Reg'ed GSD at the same time we got ours... within one year it was on anti-inflammatories for Arthritis in both rear legs.... what exactly does the KC Reg Guarantee ??

Caroline_a

I agree that the KC Guarantee means nothing, but I think that choosing carefully with your breeder makes a big difference. For example, my GSD breeder had previously owned a GSD with horrendous hips (bought in, not bred) which made her incredibly bad tempered as she was in constant pain. So the breeder was super careful about which of her dogs she bred from, always had hip and elbow scores done, etc etc. When I chose her that was my first priority and it took a while to find her.

My other criteria was that I wanted a long-hair, straight back who had been bred for intelligence as well as health. Is he clever? well, he passed all the Good Citizen medals, and is one of those dogs you can have a conversation with (ok, ok I'm the mad dog-lady...) but so far, fingers crossed, his hips and general health are great.

teddysmum

It's just a scam that makes gullible people part with their money, when there are plenty of cross breeds in rescues.


As mentioned the most publicised reason for deliberate known breed crossing was for guide dogs to produce a non moulting dog. However, there are no guarantees for outcome and many puppies not fitting the desired outcome get dumped (in rescues if they are lucky). Another point is that these crosses will not breed true, so offspring from two of these may well end up nothing like either parent.


Owners of hounds deliberately cross hounds with staffies, hoping to get a fast hunting dog with the strength of a staffie. The result is hundreds in rescue and these are more difficult to rehome than other lurchers, because people fear the staffie reputation.


Another excuse is that crossing two breeds brings in 'hybrid vigour', but in fact, the poor offspring can end up with the enhanced bad health problems of both breeds. An example is the cavapoo (cavalier cross poodle) where both breeds have heart problems.

dawnie1972

This irritates me sooooooo much and I find it hard to keep my mouth shut. I want to make hundreds of pounds so I will make up a silly name for my puppies and charge hundreds for them!! They're crossbreeds pure and simple! I worked with a girl who had a CHUG!! She eventually got fed up of me correcting her everytime she referred to it as a Chug and not a crossbreed - she had no proof of parentage so had taken the "breeders" word for it. There was a lady advertising some puppies on a site recently saying this was the "first line ever bred" of this particular "breed" - I asked her if she could proof it - she blocked me!!

lostinrates

Caroline_a wrote: »

I agree that the KC Guarantee means nothing, but I think that choosing carefully with your breeder makes a big difference. For example, my GSD breeder had previously owned a GSD with horrendous hips (bought in, not bred) which made her incredibly bad tempered as she was in constant pain. So the breeder was super careful about which of her dogs she bred from, always had hip and elbow scores done, etc etc. When I chose her that was my first priority and it took a while to find her.

My other criteria was that I wanted a long-hair, straight back who had been bred for intelligence as well as health. Is he clever? well, he passed all the Good Citizen medals, and is one of those dogs you can have a conversation with (ok, ok I'm the mad dog-lady...) but so far, fingers crossed, his hips and general health are great.

It doesn't mean as much as we might like, but it doesn't mean nothing. Its a very basic starting point for narrowing down research as to which breeder you'd like. For example, limits on numbers of litters from a female dog that can be registered, and on the age she can be bred from. That might not impact on the Health of the puppy, but certainly on the welfare, and the attitude of a breeder.

With in that there are average and less than average breeders, but there are also, very, very good ones, using lines from often from a huge geographical net for wide gene pool, or understanding why not to for their particular line. Breed clubs and societies are the next place to go to for more detailed knowledge And recommendation. Knowing what health conditions to be looking for and asking breeders about in their kennels and the line of the puppies you are looking at is important too.