child paying keep/rent

Indie_Kid

This question comes up regularly on a student forum. The general opinion from those students is that they shouldn't pay - even when they're working full time and earning more than minimum wage...

onlyroz

Indie_Kid wrote: »

This question comes up regularly on a student forum. The general opinion from those students is that they shouldn't pay - even when they're working full time and earning more than minimum wage...

The general opinion of students is that they should be able to live rent free at their parents. Surprise surprise.

That would be like asking prisoners if they think they should be released early, or job-seekers claimants if they thought they should have to look for a job, or pensioners if they thought that they should receive their state pension.

Lily-Rose_3

Indie_Kid wrote: »

This question comes up regularly on a student forum. The general opinion from those students is that they shouldn't pay - even when they're working full time and earning more than minimum wage...

PMSL, how incredibly selfish and immature they sound.

All the ones who say this are selfish little gits who want to keep all their money to themselves, they think it's NOT FAIR that they have to pay board, and they don't give a rats that their parents are having to foot the bill for everything.

Meanwhile they squander their wages on booze, fags, kindles, ipads, clubbing, clothes, macbooks, iphones, other extravagant nonsense, travelling, and generally behaving like an irresponsible !!!!!!.

They are all naive and know NOTHING about life, and how much everything costs.

Maybe they should leave home and get digs somewhere else, and then see if they can get away with this 'general opinion' that they shouldn't pay. Cheeky little b*stards. :rotfl:

Wait until they get into the REAL world: they are in for a VERY nasty shock, like the offspring of the people who don't charge their working, adult children any board and lodgings.

Person_one

Lily-Rose wrote: »

PMSL, how incredibly selfish and immature they sound.

All the ones who say this are selfish little gits who want to keep all their money to themselves, they think it's NOT FAIR that they have to pay board, and they don't give a rats that their parents are having to foot the bill for everything.

Meanwhile they squander their wages on booze, fags, kindles, ipads, clubbing, clothes, macbooks, iphones, other extravagant nonsense, travelling, and generally behaving like an irresponsible !!!!!!.

They are all naive and know NOTHING about life, and how much everything costs.

Maybe they should leave home and get digs somewhere else, and then see if they can get away with this 'general opinion' that they shouldn't pay. Cheeky little b*stards. :rotfl:

Wait until they get into the REAL world: they are in for a VERY nasty shock, like the offspring of the people who don't charge their working, adult children any board and lodgings.

Hope this helps:

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/stress-anxiety-depression/Pages/controlling-anger.aspx

Georgiegirl256

Lily-Rose wrote: »

So she kept you for 7-8 years (or more,) for nothing, right up to your mid 20s, not using a PENNY of the £250 a month towards your keep? You just lived board-free, rent free, with free electric, free heating, free cable tv, (possibly,) washing done for you, all food included, even though you were a healthy, young, working adult earning presumably a full time salary?

I am sure you think this is very noble of her, and I expect that you think everyone else will think that too. I don't. There's something about it that doesn't sit well with me. Did your mother think you weren't capable of making your own decisions? Sounds a bit control-freakish to me. In addition, there's something slightly sanctimonious about it all too IMO.

Most people I know (including me,) could never, ever dream of letting their kids off board and lodgings, and as for putting £26K away over 7-8 years for them, that is completely impossible for most. Some people that DO let their kids off their board and lodgings (supposedly,) are coming across as a bit holier-than-thou, like they are somewhat superior to people who do charge their kids board and lodgings. Not EVERYone can do it.

And to the posters who always put the 'inverted snob' comments: save it. It's getting old now.

Wow!! :eek: Why the nasty rant at paye? I think it's a lovely thing that her Mum did for her.

Granted, the majority of people can't afford to do that and need the money, but if a parent doesn't need the keep and can help their child out in say getting a foot on the property ladder for example, then why on earth wouldn't they do it if they wanted to? Don't you think it's their business? Why does it bother you so much?

For the record, you don't have to charge rent to teach your offspring the value of money and how much things cost in the real world as some people think you need to. They should be brought up to have a good understanding and respect of money in the first place.

Robisere

I am speaking as a grandparent. We have 2 children, now in their 40's with 2 of each themselves. When they both lived at home, DD was a supervisor in a factory and earned a good wage, whilst DS was out of work for some time before getting a job. Whilst he was out of work, DD paid a very good Board and bought all her own clothes, etc. DS could not pay anything of course, so we came to an understanding. As both of us parents also worked, DS was in practice, our labourer. Decorating, cleaning, gardening and anything else that we needed, he did it all cheerfully. (Well, he did it!) DD understood this, the real bone of contention between them was his awful untidiness: DD had the smallest room but was neat and organised, DS left his clothes all over the floor. (Revenge now is that HIS son is exactly the same!)

Eventually they both married (and are now divorced single parents) My wife and I looked at their predicament, with 2 children to bring up alone, and thought about what life was going to be like for them, in a rural village with poor transport links. So we set up 4 Junior ISA's for the grandchildren and this will give them a start. It has turned out to be a good move: the eldest GS is working and taking driving lessons, the eldest GD is at College several miles away and knows that she will have to do the same. Next GS is in College at 15 and looks like being an engineer, so will need to be able to drive. Youngest GD is only 9. But the ISA means that they will be able to boost the bank accounts that mum and dad have already setup, and will be able to buy a car in order to travel to work. This will free up their parents at a time when they will most need it - when young adults are emptying the fridge and food cupboards at a great rate! It also gives the grandchildren confidence to know that they have this safety net.

Eldest GS has a very good job and pays mum board, size of which is not my business but knowing DD it will be fair to both of them. Eldest GD goes to College about 22 miles away on the college's own bus, twice a week, and works at a local restaurant 3 or 4 days a week. Youngest GS is looking for a Summer job and already works at a local engineering company for one day a week, on Work Experience.

Point is, that because of mum and dad's situation, over the years they have come to understand that nothing is for nothing and everything that they eat, wear, watch and listen to, costs money. There is no doubt in their minds that they have to have a Work Ethic.

Person-one, I don't know which member of the younger generation has blighted your life, but believe me they are not all the same. From my grandchildren, I now know many fine young people and I have yet to meet one who matches your description. I feel sorry for you.

Person_one

Robisere wrote: »

Person-one, I don't know which member of the younger generation has blighted your life, but believe me they are not all the same. From my grandchildren, I now know many fine young people and I have yet to meet one who matches your description. I feel sorry for you.

Excuse me? I believe you are confused.

Carmina-Piranha_2

I don't think you meant Person one ...

Again, mentions (not by person one) of getting all the washing done for you ... why? Do all of you parents of young adults on here do their washing for them? Surely everyone knows how to work a washing machine before the age of 18 ... how would they manage if they went to uni?

Not wanting to take money off your kids is one thing, but continuing to do their washing for them like they are helpless primary school children is quite another! I generally cook for my teenagers because they eat with us, but aside from the whites wash I don't feel the urge to do their washing for them. I'm not their maid. I want them to reach adulthood with some idea of how things work in a household.

Person_one

Carmina-Piranha wrote: »

Again, mentions (not by person one) of getting all the washing done for you ... why? Do all of you parents of young adults on here do their washing for them? Surely everyone knows how to work a washing machine before the age of 18 ... how would they manage if they went to uni?

Actually, when I moved home from uni my mum completely insisted that she take over my washing. Apparently having somebody else sharing the washer and dryer 'messed up her system'. At that point I'd been doing all my own for three years and would have preferred to carry on, but I had to relinquish control until I got my own place again!

whodathunkit

Robisere wrote: »

I am speaking as a grandparent. We have 2 children, now in their 40's with 2 of each themselves. When they both lived at home, DD was a supervisor in a factory and earned a good wage, whilst DS was out of work for some time before getting a job. Whilst he was out of work, DD paid a very good Board and bought all her own clothes, etc. DS could not pay anything of course, so we came to an understanding.

Assuming that he was claiming JSA I don't see any "of course" involved in not paying for keep. JSA is intended to cover food, utilities and general living costs, not as pocket money for the claimant.