Nice People 12: Nice in Nice

Yorkie1

Not as hot up here as it is down with you folks, but still in the high 20s. I should have been studying this morning but read papers in the sun in the garden instead

Was in the allotment association shop this afternoon; it has no windows or through draft, so we spent most of it on chairs outside in the shade phew.

Will study tomorrow but have just spent 40 minutes watching Shed of the Year - excellent eccentricity for a summer's evening

PasturesNew

I was just reading on the DM online site that 10 miles up the road from me was allegedly the hottest spot today. It didn't feel as hot today as it did every other day for the past week.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

Dopester is lovely .... wish he'd come back... with a photo of his dog (if only to prove he didn't eat him yet).

A darling of a person. I hope his life is good and full of joy.

I need the thunderstorm now please. My head is very swollen now. Combination of over doing things and air pressure. The smell of beer in heat is revolting.

PasturesNew

Comedy just started on Channel 4. Two UK alien geeks go on a road trip to alien sites in the US .... and find one.

neverdespairgirl

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Saw that.

I'm frankly a bit surprised the powers that be haven't exercised somewhat more dramatic quarantine options long before now.

This strain appears to have a c. 60% mortality rate, and an incubation period of around 3 weeks. It may already have spread much further.

The good news is that it's quite hard to catch Ebola - it's from bodily fluids, usually, rather than like a cold. Fortunately.

tomterm8

PasturesNew wrote: »

Can you imagine trying to tell people today that they aren't allowed out? They'd have the screaming ab-dabs about rights and call the papers ... *cue indignant pose outside house for the photographer*.

There are no rights.

An outbreak of Ebola would fit the definition in s19 of The civil contingencies act 2004. S20 of the Civil contingencies act 2004 gives a minister to make emergency laws with respect to an emergency.

neverdespairgirl

GDB2222 wrote: »

In this country, during the last really big epidemic, they painted a Red Cross on your door, and you weren't allowed out. It seemed to work, as half the population survived. We could do better now, as our understanding of contagion is better.

The advantage our forbears had was that the incubation period for the plague was only 4 days or so, compared to 15 for Ebola.

Last really big epidemic here was the 1918 to 1919 'flu, wasn't it?

The Black Death was a big 'un, then. We're far less socially equipped to deal with anything of that magnitude than we were then.

Yorkie1 wrote: »

Will study tomorrow but have just spent 40 minutes watching Shed of the Year - excellent eccentricity for a summer's evening

Featuring that architect bloke with the really, really, horrible accent?

tomterm8 wrote: »

There are no rights.

An outbreak of Ebola would fit the definition in s19 of The civil contingencies act 2004. S20 of the Civil contingencies act 2004 gives a minister to make emergency laws with respect to an emergency.

A rather useful provision, that:

(3)Emergency regulations may make provision of any kind that could be made by Act of Parliament or by the exercise of the Royal Prerogative; in particular, regulations may—
(a)confer a function on a Minister of the Crown, on the Scottish Ministers, on the National Assembly for Wales, on a Northern Ireland department, on a coordinator appointed under section 24 or on any other specified person (and a function conferred may, in particular, be—
(i)a power, or duty, to exercise a discretion;
(ii)a power to give directions or orders, whether written or oral);
(b)provide for or enable the requisition or confiscation of property (with or without compensation);
(c)provide for or enable the destruction of property, animal life or plant life (with or without compensation);
(d)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, movement to or from a specified place;
(e)require, or enable the requirement of, movement to or from a specified place;
(f)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, assemblies of specified kinds, at specified places or at specified times;
(g)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, travel at specified times;
(h)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, other specified activities;
(i)create an offence of—
(i)failing to comply with a provision of the regulations;
(ii)failing to comply with a direction or order given or made under the regulations;
(iii)obstructing a person in the performance of a function under or by virtue of the regulations;
(j)disapply or modify an enactment or a provision made under or by virtue of an enactment;
(k)require a person or body to act in performance of a function (whether the function is conferred by the regulations or otherwise and whether or not the regulations also make provision for remuneration or compensation);
(l)enable the Defence Council to authorise the deployment of Her Majesty’s armed forces;
(m)make provision (which may include conferring powers in relation to property) for facilitating any deployment of Her Majesty’s armed forces;
(n)confer jurisdiction on a court or tribunal (which may include a tribunal established by the regulations);
(o)make provision which has effect in relation to, or to anything done in—
(i)an area of the territorial sea,
(ii)an area within British fishery limits, or
(iii)an area of the continental shelf;
(p)make provision which applies generally or only in specified circumstances or for a specified purpose;
(q)make different provision for different circumstances or purposes.

tomterm8

PasturesNew wrote: »

What they forget on prepping threads is ...

As a general rule, if things are so bad that the capital city of a country isn't running it's better to GTF out of oz and go to another country.

Instead of the plan to go to some vulnerable homestead miles away from everywhere with a stash of expensive stuff people can nick...

Have an apartment in the rich part of the capital city where the police will make sure you are safe, and there are enough people from the elite that unless it's the end of the world, everything is going to work and be safe.

Also, it's much better to have money in multiple currencies in an emergency than a bug out kit.

PasturesNew

tomterm8 wrote: »

There are no rights.

An outbreak of Ebola would fit the definition in s19 of The civil contingencies act 2004. S20 of the Civil contingencies act 2004 gives a minister to make emergency laws with respect to an emergency.

You try explaining that to a row of chavs in their council houses who want to go shopping in Asda for turkey twizzlers!

Hell hath no fury like a fat woman in spandex with her grubby kids.

michaels

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Last really big epidemic here was the 1918 to 1919 'flu, wasn't it?

The Black Death was a big 'un, then. We're far less socially equipped to deal with anything of that magnitude than we were then.




Featuring that architect bloke with the really, really, horrible accent?



A rather useful provision, that:

(3)Emergency regulations may make provision of any kind that could be made by Act of Parliament or by the exercise of the Royal Prerogative; in particular, regulations may—
(a)confer a function on a Minister of the Crown, on the Scottish Ministers, on the National Assembly for Wales, on a Northern Ireland department, on a coordinator appointed under section 24 or on any other specified person (and a function conferred may, in particular, be—
(i)a power, or duty, to exercise a discretion;
(ii)a power to give directions or orders, whether written or oral);
(b)provide for or enable the requisition or confiscation of property (with or without compensation);
(c)provide for or enable the destruction of property, animal life or plant life (with or without compensation);
(d)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, movement to or from a specified place;
(e)require, or enable the requirement of, movement to or from a specified place;
(f)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, assemblies of specified kinds, at specified places or at specified times;
(g)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, travel at specified times;
(h)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, other specified activities;
(i)create an offence of—
(i)failing to comply with a provision of the regulations;
(ii)failing to comply with a direction or order given or made under the regulations;
(iii)obstructing a person in the performance of a function under or by virtue of the regulations;
(j)disapply or modify an enactment or a provision made under or by virtue of an enactment;
(k)require a person or body to act in performance of a function (whether the function is conferred by the regulations or otherwise and whether or not the regulations also make provision for remuneration or compensation);
(l)enable the Defence Council to authorise the deployment of Her Majesty’s armed forces;
(m)make provision (which may include conferring powers in relation to property) for facilitating any deployment of Her Majesty’s armed forces;
(n)confer jurisdiction on a court or tribunal (which may include a tribunal established by the regulations);
(o)make provision which has effect in relation to, or to anything done in—
(i)an area of the territorial sea,
(ii)an area within British fishery limits, or
(iii)an area of the continental shelf;
(p)make provision which applies generally or only in specified circumstances or for a specified purpose;
(q)make different provision for different circumstances or purposes.

Of course there are only a few hundred thousand policemen and soldiers altogether (for the politicians to try to enforce their orders with) and some of them may be sick / unwilling to fire on starving children / more concerned with looting the supply depots and feeding their families....