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lessonlearned

fairy_lights wrote: »

Change for Life, I've got a question for you.
Your website advocates swapping cheese and butter for low fat versions. But what about the extra sugar and salt added to low fat products? isn't it generally accepted these days that eating fat won't in itself make you fat?

I absolutely agree with you Fairy Lights.

The whole idea of low fat foods has been an absolute disaster.

When you remove fat you destroy flavour so the manufacturers have to add flavour, usually in the form of sugars and or salt. Sometimes you will get both salt and sugar in the same product. :rotfl: What is that about.

There is nothing wrong with butter...... In moderation.

It is far healthier than margarines and low fat spreads. It won't kill you, clog up your arteries or make you pile on the pounds.

A lot of these NHS food guidelines are hopelessly out of date, especially for people who have issues with IBS, GORD or diabetes. There is a lot of evidence now to prove that the advice to adopts a low fat high carb way of eating is just wrong.

The NHS still gives the wrong advice for diabetics encouraging them to eat starchy carbs such as grains, root vegetables, potatoes and fruit. They do suggest that people switch to whole grains but I doubt that many people will attempt whole grain rice or pasta. Even if they did that still leaves us with potatoes and even whole grains can lead to insulin difficulties.

Another thing which I notice is the NHS still have this idea that whole milk should be swapped for 1 per cent milk. Again I think this is unsound advice, particularly for children, especially as we are now seeing children and young women with dangerously low levels of Vitamin D and the return of rickets.

Children (and I would argue many women) need Vitamin D in their diets for good bone health. Vitamin D is a fat soluable vitamin. Take away the fat from milk, you remove vitamin D and much of its nutritional value.

Whole milk is usually around 4per cent fat, so not really enough fat to,clog the arteries. The real,damage is more likely to come from gorging on fat loaded pizzas, cheap fatty sausages, burgers, chips, Turkey twizzlers and all the other nasty stuff that kids, and let's face it, many adults like to call food.

Drink full fat milk, organic if you can afford it.

Dairy, iespecially the full fat versions, are a valuable addition to any diet especially if you are vegetarian and are not getting any fat from meat or fish. Obviously if someone is lactose intolerant then that's another matter in which case they would need to find dairy alternatives and not just switch to low fat.

This resurgence of rickets should be taken very seriously.

There is also some recent research that young women who have insufficient levels of Vitamin D can give birth to babies who have osteoporosis. Needless to say this is a very serious condition to inflict on a baby.

THe whole low fat debacle has been an unmitigated disaster. Heart attacks, clogged arteries and obesity are not linked to dairy fats and switching to low fat versions will not make us lean and healthy.

sweaty_betty

lessonlearned wrote: »

I absolutely agree with you Fairy Lights.

The whole idea of low fat foods has been an absolute disaster.

When you remove fat you destroy flavour so the manufacturers have to add flavour, usually in the form of sugars and or salt. Sometimes you will get both salt and sugar in the same product. :rotfl: What is that about.

There is nothing wrong with butter...... In moderation.

It is far healthier than margarines and low fat spreads. It won't kill you, clog up your arteries or make you pile on the pounds.

A lot of these NHS food guidelines are hopelessly out of date, especially for people who have issues with IBS, GORD or diabetes. There is a lot of evidence now to prove that the advice to adopts a low fat high carb way of eating is just wrong.

The NHS still gives the wrong advice for diabetics encouraging them to eat starchy carbs such as grains, root vegetables, potatoes and fruit. They do suggest that people switch to whole grains but I doubt that many people will attempt whole grain rice or pasta. Even if they did that still leaves us with potatoes and even whole grains can lead to insulin difficulties.

Another thing which I notice is the NHS still have this idea that whole milk should be swapped for 1 per cent milk. Again I think this is unsound advice, particularly for children, especially as we are now seeing children and young women with dangerously low levels of Vitamin D and the return of rickets.

Children (and I would argue many women) need Vitamin D in their diets for good bone health. Vitamin D is a fat soluable vitamin. Take away the fat from milk, you remove vitamin D and much of its nutritional value.

Whole milk is usually around 4per cent fat, so not really enough fat to,clog the arteries. The real,damage is more likely to come from gorging on fat loaded pizzas, cheap fatty sausages, burgers, chips, Turkey twizzlers and all the other nasty stuff that kids, and let's face it, many adults like to call food.

Drink full fat milk, organic if you can afford it.

Dairy, iespecially the full fat versions, are a valuable addition to any diet especially if you are vegetarian and are not getting any fat from meat or fish. Obviously if someone is lactose intolerant then that's another matter in which case they would need to find dairy alternatives and not just switch to low fat.

This resurgence of rickets should be taken very seriously.

There is also some recent research that young women who have insufficient levels of Vitamin D can give birth to babies who have osteoporosis. Needless to say this is a very serious condition to inflict on a baby.

THe whole low fat debacle has been an unmitigated disaster. Heart attacks, clogged arteries and obesity are not linked to dairy fats and switching to low fat versions will not make us lean and healthy.

I completely agree

fairy_lights

I've just noticed that Change4life has a thread on there own on here now, so I will repost my question in there. Very interested to see what replies they come up with!

Floss

Well said LL.

maddiemay

LL - very well said, eat good real food and you will feel full and not need to eat sugary/fatty/salty rubbish (except as a treat of course).

lessonlearned

The problem is so many healthcare professionals don't really have any proper training in nutrition. I read somewhere that the average GP has just half a days training on the subject.

My mother developed diabetes some 30 years ago. The advice she was given was just crazy. Of course she belongs to that generation who take the doctors word as gospel, so she just blindly followed his advice, with catastrophic results, uncontrolled diabetes leading to a series of strokes and now vascular dementia as a result of stroke damage.

As I mentioned recently after years of struggling with both IBS and GORD I have now changed my diet and am now completely pain free and have more or less healed myself. I no longer need or take any medication for either condition, neither prescription drugs or over the counter remedies.

The human body is a wonderful piece of engineering but you do need to give it the right fuel to give it a fighting chance.

You really are what you eat.

maman

maddiemay wrote: »

LL - very well said, eat good real food and you will feel full and not need to eat sugary/fatty/salty rubbish (except as a treat of course).

I completely agree maddie. I find that cooking from scratch I'm able to control exactly how much sugar/fat/salt I eat. I think one of the problems with modern living is that people are eating pizzas, crisps, chocolate, fizzy drinks etc as a daily thing when they should be kept to occasional treat status.

System

I do agree with the idea that eating healthily is the way to go - I'm just too lazy which is something I need to try to overcome. I certainly felt a lot better when I was doing the 5:2 , not just from the fasting but because I was eating better all the time, not just on fast days.
At the moment I'm eating 2 or 3 bars of chocolate a day and I know that's silly and I'll undo all my work but I seem to have no willpower at the moment.
Oh well.
Have been to see the doc about memory loss, it's been getting ridiculous - she reckons it's not Alzheimer's or old age, but more likely to be stress at work. I'm quite relieved

maman

Not like me to have a moan but here goes....I tried to do Fab Friday today but felt anything but. If you looked at me from the neck down I suppose I was OK. Smart jeans, top, scarf etc. But today was the first day I've worn foundation as all my summer colour is gone and I'm feeling (and looking) washed out.:( I don't want to be tangoed but I can really understand why all these celebs go for fake tan. Added to that my hair's a mess , needs washing, needs cutting and I haven't got used to new hairdryer so needs styling properly.


But tomorrow's another day, I'll wash my hair and try again.:)


Just watched a great Abba programme on BBC4, good fun.:D

tru

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