Sharing/conflict resolution at nursery school?

notanewuser

quidsy wrote: »

Wow I think you have bigger problems than where you kids goes to school if she is influenced by this attitude on a daily basis. You posted on the internet. You are getting opinions you don't like but it was your desicion to ask for them.

I provided the link to demonstrate to another user that in England, most schools are Christian based even if they don't do much about it.

I am being constantly harangued by people incapable of answering a clear question on here about why the current system is worthy of being kept. "We've done it for hundreds of years" isn't really a valid response.

Your post wasn't clear why you were posting the wiki page or for whose benefit, but fair enough.

notanewuser

lostinrates wrote: »

So you survived. . Fwiw scientists can be religious. The most religious teacher at my school was the physics teacher. Far more 'into' praying than the nuns who taught.
I also had pretty amazing sex ed, possibly best sex ed judging by threads on here. Directly against the catholic teaching of course a very forthright, better than basics education.

If you really are opposed to this have you fully investigated your fee paying options?

Yes, he was also a Reverend. But never pushed the religious agenda. His sermons were often science based.

There are no welsh medium fee paying schools. They don't exist, so that's not an option.

lostinrates

notanewuser wrote: »

Yes, he was also a Reverend. But never pushed the religious agenda. His sermons were often science based.

There are no welsh medium fee paying schools. They don't exist, so that's not an option.

Could she do extra curricular Welsh?

quidsy

I am being constantly harangued by people incapable of answering a clear question on here about why the current system is worthy of being kept. "We've done it for hundreds of years" isn't really a valid response

I personally have not harangued you in any way. Your op was not " a clear question on here about why the current system is worthy of being kept". It was about making sure your daughters next stage of education met your specific requirements.

But as you've asked;

The "we've done it for hundred of years" is a valid response. This is the culture & history of England & Wales that developed & evolved over hundreds of years, many children were raised in the same system who have no or different religious affiliations, you included & because of this culture & history are allowed & have the human right to disagree with it and you have choices in how much you allow your child to be involved in it but it is an important aspect of our culture.
In other more non secular countries, many citizens do not have that luxury.

notanewuser

lostinrates wrote: »

Could she do extra curricular Welsh?

Not the same. I did second language welsh (to A level) and really struggled due to not having anyone at home speaking welsh. My rusty welsh is improving, but DH is a yorkshireman and just can't get his mouth around some of the sounds. He does try, but both of us believe that immersion in the language at this age offers the best opportunity for her to become confident and fluent in the language, which has many benefits and opportunities here. That way if we (collectively) decided on english-medium/fee paying secondary school, DD would already have learned the language and wouldn't struggle so much as a teenager.

onlyroz

quidsy wrote: »

Finding a non demonination school in her area might be better for the op, it will at least remove one of her concerns about the childs education. Now the sharing thing is a whole other kettle of fish altogether.

You seem to have missed that the OP's child is already at a non-demominational school.

The issue is that in this country if you don't want your child to be exposed to religious indoctrination then you either have to home-school them or actively withdraw them from school assemblies. Nobody has provided any justification for the continuation of this archaic system other than "that's the way it has always been done". You can argue that in most cases it doesn't do much harm but that's not really a reason to continue either.

I personally wouldn't have much problem with a school inviting in a vicar to speak, as long as everything they said was preceeded by "Christians believe" rather than "We believe", and as long as the schools also allowed rabbis, muslim and humanist speakers in as well.

onlyroz

quidsy wrote: »

In other more secular countries, many citizens do not have that luxury.

In more secular countries you are still permitted to take your child to the church/synagogue/mosque/temple whenever you wish

lostinrates

I agree, it is an option though, but it agree I probably would not choose it in your shoes.

Fwiw, I'm also in favour of diversity of language but I suppose the same argument could be had" just because Welsh has been spoken for all these years why still do it when its a minor tongue...'

quidsy

onlyroz wrote: »

In more secular countries you are still permitted to take your child to the church/synagogue/mosque/temple whenever you wish

This doesn't make sense. please expland on what you are trying to say.

notanewuser

quidsy wrote: »

I personally have not harangued you in any way. Your op was not " a clear question on here about why the current system is worthy of being kept". It was about making sure your daughters next stage of education met your specific requirements.

But as you've asked;

The "we've done it for hundred of years" is a valid response. This is the culture & history of England & Wales that developed & evolved over hundreds of years, many children were raised in the same system who have no or different religious affiliations, you included & because of this culture & history are allowed & have the human right to disagree with it and you have choices in how much you allow your child to be involved in it but it is an important aspect of our culture.
In other more secular countries, many citizens do not have that luxury.

((sigh))

My OP was nothing to do with religion, or control. It was a request for information from parents and teachers as to how sharing and conflict issues were handled in school nurseries.

I have asked repeatedly as the thread has turned to the religious aspect for somebody to explain how this benefits modern day children, rather than being a hangover from controlling practices passed. Nobody has given a coherent answer.

Yes, history, yes culture, but what does that mean? We used to burn women because we thought they were witches. We used to hang people. We used to beat children black and blue. We used to deny women the vote. We used to put poor people in poorhouses in terrible conditions. Religious institutions haven't always operated in the best interests of those they serve.

Yes, the church built and ran many many schools. But it's 2014. Why do governments insist that children in non-denominational schools take an active part in any religion? What's the purpose? If most kids take no notice, what's the point? Why shouldn't this be reviewed and changed if it's not what modern society requires? How is this practice in any way a luxury?!