Is there any way to motivate the missus to lose weight? Running out of ideas...

Person_one

FBaby wrote: »

The problem is that people struggle to stay that little bit overweight without falling into the obese category, by which they are not healthy any longer but a bomb waiting to explode at a later age. Not all slim people are healthy but very few obese ones will be long term.

Shall I take this to mean that you think a size 14 is 'that little bit overweight'? Why am I not surprised! :rotfl:

I suppose it could be, on a shorter person, but it's an interesting assumption on your part. The truth is it that it's ok for most animals to carry a bit of extra fat, that includes humans, especially women. It's better anyway, health wise, to be a bit overweight than a bit underweight. Yet I never see any moralising or name calling threads started on here about underweight people...

If you can put on weight despite eating a very low calorie diet and only adding a few biscuits here and there, maybe your body is trying to tell you that it wants that extra half a stone on? Since levelling out at a weight that is right for me, I've never really gone up or down from it, except perhaps a bit over Christmas.

tomtontom

Person_one wrote: »

Are you equally scathing about people with anorexia nervosa? Especially if they have children?

It's odd that if you struggle with food in a way that makes you thinner, you are afforded much more sympathy and understanding than if your struggle makes you bigger. Bulimics are often overweight, and compulsive binge eating is now recognised as a disorder.

Tell me something that is not recognised as a disorder nowadays!

As a former fatty that used to blame everything I could think of, I finally realised the true cause of my weight problem - me. We need to stop looking for reasons to justify obesity and focus on getting people eating healthily.

And the simplest way not to binge on chocolate and crisps, don't have them in the house. Cutting up a load of fruit will do you far less harm.

paulineb_2

tomtontom wrote: »

Tell me something that is not recognised as a disorder nowadays!

As a former fatty that used to blame everything I could think of, I finally realised the true cause of my weight problem - me. We need to stop looking for reasons to justify obesity and focus on getting people eating healthily.

And the simplest way not to binge on chocolate and crisps, don't have them in the house. Cutting up a load of fruit will do you far less harm.

And if you live in a house of slim people who like crisps and chocolate? I dont, but many people do.

System

tomtontom wrote: »

Tell me something that is not recognised as a disorder nowadays!

As a former fatty that used to blame everything I could think of, I finally realised the true cause of my weight problem - me. We need to stop looking for reasons to justify obesity and focus on getting people eating healthily.

And the simplest way not to binge on chocolate and crisps, don't have them in the house. Cutting up a load of fruit will do you far less harm.

You can't deny that is IS an eatig disorder for some people

It wouldn't be recognised as one otherwise

My psychiatrist told me I have disordered eating as I have been know to binge/starve/restrict/purge but as I'm not underweight I never got any help with it

FBaby

Shall I take this to mean that you think a size 14 is 'that little bit overweight'? Why am I not surprised!

It is for the average person. It would be obese for me (short and small bones) it is not for my friend who is 5'11'' and strong bones.

It's better anyway, health wise, to be a bit overweight than a bit underweight.

It is not better than being a good weight, that's the comparable element, not something else that is not healthy either.

If you can put on weight despite eating a very low calorie diet and only adding a few biscuits here and there, maybe your body is trying to tell you that it wants that extra half a stone on?

Interesting conclusion. How about it just means that I can't eat whatever I like and get away with it. My fat content go up just as my weight does, and it is clearly not where it should be for someone who is and always has been very physically active. 1/2 stone is the most I have gone up by besides my pregnancies, but that's enough to make me feel slugish and uncomfortable. I could just accept it telling myself that it is age and whatever else excuses I could resort too but I rather give myself a quick in the bottom and do something about it. In my case, I have always been much happier when I have been slimer because it makes me feel good about myself.

paulineb_2

http://www.something-fishy.org/whatarethey/ednos.php

Eating disorders not otherwise specified.

paulineb_2

FBaby wrote: »

It is for the average person. It would be obese for me (short and small bones) it is not for my friend who is 5'11'' and strong bones.

It is not better than being a good weight, that's the comparable element, not something else that is not healthy either.


Interesting conclusion. How about that it just means that I can't eat whatever I like and get away with it. My fat content go up just as my weight does, and it is clearly not where it should be for someone who is and always has been very physically active. 1/2 stone is the most I have gone up by besides my pregnancies, but that's enough to make me feel slugish and uncomfortable. I could just accept it telling myself that it is age and whatever else excuses I could resort too but I rather give myself a quick in the bottom and do something about it. In my case, I have always been much happier when I have been slimer because it makes me feel good about myself.

At just over five foot 1 and between 9 stones 4 and 7 around 20 years ago, I fitted into some size 14s. I had a healthy BMI. I dont think we can say with conviction that a certain dress size would mean obesity for most people, people have such different body shapes and some people will have small waists and bigger hips. Im one of those people. I could buy a size 14 in jeans and they would fit around the hips at that time and they would be too big on the waist, but a 12 would be too small. Dare I say it, some people wont be an 8,10,12,14,16, they might be a 9,11,13,15. You used to get some size 13 jeans, my friend had a couple of pairs, but thats rare.

Im not sure there's really such a thing as small bones, more like people with different body types, endomorph, ectomorph

tomtontom

paulineb wrote: »

And if you live in a house of slim people who like crisps and chocolate? I dont, but many people do.

Ask them not to have them in, or to keep them in a locked cupboard. Take responsibility.

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

You can't deny that is IS an eatig disorder for some people

It wouldn't be recognised as one otherwise

My psychiatrist told me I have disordered eating as I have been know to binge/starve/restrict/purge but as I'm not underweight I never got any help with it

I think it is an issue for many people, I don't think we need to give it a clinical label. It is not an excuse to be obese (and I did used to use it as a justification) - there is no reason why someone cannot binge on fruit.

paulineb_2

tomtontom wrote: »

Ask them not to have them in, or to keep them in a locked cupboard. Take responsibility.



I think it is an issue for many people, I don't think we need to give it a clinical label. It is not an excuse to be obese (and I did used to use it as a justification) - there is no reason why someone cannot binge on fruit.

If someone binged on fruit, depending on the fruit they were eating, they could still end up overweight.

Its not what people are eating thats necessarily the problem, its what is causing them to binge. If people dont sort that out swapping fruit for chocolate will make little difference.

You want to encourage people to break the cycle of binge eating.

Cloudydaze

FBaby wrote: »

In my case, I have always been much happier when I have been slimer because it makes me feel good about myself.

Kate Moss got slated for saying "nothing tastes as good as skinny feels".

I have to agree 100%.

(Although just to note, I'm not a super skinny waif model, I'm short & slim!)