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Windows XP support ended - day 1

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  • John259
    John259 Posts: 1,085 Forumite
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    hansi wrote: »
    Thanks. Yes is the 2008 model., but unfortunately it doesn't have a CD drive and I've bought a Windows 7 Professional disk!
    If it's got a USB port then you could connect an external drive.
    "Such an enormous country, you realize when you cross it" - Jack Kerouac
  • hansi
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    True, but could I copy the disk on to a memory stick and install it from there, and would it accept the Pro version?
  • NiftyDigits
    NiftyDigits Posts: 10,459 Forumite
    hansi wrote: »
    Thanks. Yes is the 2008 model., but unfortunately it doesn't have a CD drive and I've bought a Windows 7 Professional disk!

    As I wrote...I will write you out a guide.

    Why did you buy the disc before you knew if you could use it?
  • Lum
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    hansi wrote: »
    True, but could I copy the disk on to a memory stick and install it from there, and would it accept the Pro version?

    Yes you can do that, though it's a bit fiddly. URL="http://arstechnica.com/business/2009/12/the-usb-flash-drive/"]Instructions[/URL

    And yes Pro will work. The system requirements for the Pro version are the same for Home, only difference is Pro costs more and has some extra stuffs useful for businesses.
  • buglawton
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    Johnmcl7 wrote: »
    Security Essentials on XP will continue to receive definition updates until next year.

    John

    You cannot download & install Security Essentials on XP or Vista machines any more. Maybe existing installations receive updates still.
  • hansi
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    Lum wrote: »
    Yes you can do that, though it's a bit fiddly. URL="http://arstechnica.com/business/2009/12/the-usb-flash-drive/"]Instructions[/URL

    And yes Pro will work. The system requirements for the Pro version are the same for Home, only difference is Pro costs more and has some extra stuffs useful for businesses.
    Thank you very much. I have printed the instructions off, get a flash drive and give it a go. Would I be able to create a dual boot system on my netbook or will I have use either XP or W7?
  • NiftyDigits
    NiftyDigits Posts: 10,459 Forumite
    buglawton wrote: »
    You cannot download & install Security Essentials on XP or Vista machines any more. Maybe existing installations receive updates still.

    Actually, you can.
  • NiftyDigits
    NiftyDigits Posts: 10,459 Forumite
    hansi wrote: »
    Thanks. Yes is the 2008 model., but unfortunately it doesn't have a CD drive and I've bought a Windows 7 Professional disk!

    Guide is ready.
  • andydiysaver
    andydiysaver Posts: 424 Forumite
    edited 17 April 2014 at 6:51AM
    almillar wrote: »
    Just for starters, the XP that ran on 128MB would be the 32 bit version, which can only address, what, 3GB of RAM, so that's a non starter. Windows XP did develop. It developed into Vista, 7 and 8. The genes are there, many drivers still work, and plenty of the stuff that started with XP is still present in the newer versions.
    lazer - if you got 3.5 years out of a netbook, you'd be doing better than most people.
    You certainly shouldn't have been buying a computer with XP on it in 2010 if you wanted to use it in the future.
    I'd be interested to know how much any individual would be willing to PAY MS to keep XP up to date. Or do you think they should do it for free until the end of time?
    free till the end of time? - bit much isn't it. Corporate licences are not free, and to some extent if the world was happy Microsoft would be happy - it's this extra degree of greed and pocket lining that can only be obtained/justified by completely reselling something else. I say reselling because of course you're right, they did to some extent carry over technology, so it's more rebranding, in the quest for the almighty dollar. Windows 7 bears more than a striking resemblance to the failed vista.


    fundamentally though XP is different to vista/7, which are far more alike. Vista/7 have an enormous hunger for resources, which, as far as the hardware goes, is completely inefficient. Rather than innovate and develop properly, if windows was a workshop, rather than tidy the place up, they instead got a massive building to house all their half working clutter. This is my point. if you're going to develop something make it better, don't make it fat like half of the UK population, make it lean, more efficient, an actual bang for your buck that justifies the start from scratch money layout these new OS's require everything from the corporation to the private user to find


    you can't argue with my point that money is the motivator, when it clearly was/is/and will continue to be. My point is that value for money is sadly lacking here as is creativity/vision/innovation - and here's why - because most people know very little about computer architecture you will find that this ignorance is also the cash cow to the OS developers because put quite simply "what people don't know won't hurt them" you can rebrand a frog as a princess and the general public will see the flash front end and go "ok , this looks brilliant!!". Where a quite different money motivation was involved i.e. The corporates and the effects on their own P/L figures in letting Microsoft tax them twice a decade, fairly needlessly via rebranding - you'll find they were slower to follows and when many of them did it was by means of the stick not the carrot - does that not tell you something?
  • almillar
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    lazer:
    Not everyone buying a computer understands them.
    'Caveat Emptor' - they can research it for 30 seconds!
    I've never bought into the need to update something when the old one does a perfectly good job

    You'd better if you want to stay on the internet. It would be nice if we didn't have to, but fact is, we do. Developers have finite resources, and can only keep so many things up to date. You may think it's doing a perfectly good job, but it may also be sending your details to someone in a different country. You don't think it won't happen to you, do you?

    andydiysaver:
    You're the one that wanted free XP support forever, or how long is a reasonable amount of time? And how much are you willing to pay? Vista was made at a time when everything in computing was getting bigger and faster. CPU, HDD, RAM all increased, and MS was really late to get to leaning down OSs. 7 did that, and 8 did it further.
    I never argued against money being a factor, MS is a company - indeed, my point, asking everyone how much they wanted to pay to keep up to date, used the same argument. You can't expect MS to keep XP up to date forever, for free. How much did you pay for it in the first place?!
    You're talking like there's some kind of conspiracy for MS to try to get you to give them money - it's not a conspiracy, it's business! Do you really think it's economically viable for them to keep XP up to date? AND Vista? AND 7? AND 8?
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