Windows XP support ended - day 1

OnAndUp

Jivesinger wrote: »

Kaspersky generally does well in comparison tests like this one. So yes if you can get it free, I would probably prefer it to Avast.

It doesn't mean you're totally immune to some possible issues which might affect XP, of course.

Thanks for replying I will have a go with Kaspersky then.

That site from the link is handy I did google compare AV results but it's hard to know which website / article to look at then! Kaspersky do seem to be the highest rated for everything on there?

matttye

Traditional viruses are rubbish these days anyway. With our increasing reliance on the web and web technologies, hackers are far more interested in hacking websites and web technologies. Just look at the latest 'heartbleed' stuff.

Call me naive, but I don't feel an overwhelming need to change all of my passwords. If my details have been stolen along with thousands/millions of others, why would they be interested in mine specifically?

That and I wonder how much it's being blown out of proportion.

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

Support for xp lasted far longer than apple and iPad 1. Which ended without warning in 2011, in less than 12 months!

hansi

GunJack wrote: »

...and yet, this morning, I had the yellow Updates shield beaming at me from the taskbar, and I downloaded and installed 4 updates... where were yours???

I got those updates too.

Kernel_Sanders

Johnmcl7 wrote: »

Security Essentials on XP will continue to receive definition updates until next year.

So how come I've just got this?

grumpycrab

Kernel_Sanders wrote: »

So how come I've just got this?
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The MSE popup doesn't say updates will stop. They will continue (under XP) for another 12 months.

andydiysaver

its all about money money money - Microsoft make a product too good for their OWN good and they're getting out the big sticks now to make people move. To stop the security isn't exactly direct involvement, it's more doing nothing so as to allow someone else to do that. I do love it how the Chinese have got together their own team of updaters, to keep XP -this is consumer action on an international scale.


What do I care, I'm using windows 7 and I think it's ok - the thing that finally got me to move was the XP mode, which is quite a nice touch. However , windows 7 is essentially vista with a cherry on top to rebrand it, its success more that there were further years between 7 and XP than vista and XP, ...and the aforementioned cherry on top organised by the marketing guys


what I fear is the following: them doing this to 7 to make us get 8, upon which point the Linux I run on my VM's becomes my full time operating system running VM's of XP and 7. Windows 8 is absolutely revolting- the PC isn't a mobile phone, the mobile phone isn't a PC, it's ok to have both, they do different things. All effort to turn my computer into a bloody apple iphone will be lost on me as I turn to Linux to finally save me from this rapid turn over profiteering.


of will they bring out something cooler than 8 before I have to get rid of 7. IF so, how many minutes is it allowed to be live before they change it?


interesting article here http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/microsoft-quietly-extends-consumer-support-for-windows-7-vista/4529


not sure I buy into all of it. fact is fact. What motivates Microsoft is money so they want to sell you as many new operating systems as possible in as short a time, whereas we get used to one and used to using that one - two different outlooks and that is the sticking point.


I'd do it different. I'd develop four five constantly maintained solid good operating systems with the potential for open source development. I do not buy into how it's a requirement to move people around all the time to make a profit. Why not consolidate existing systems and make profit on updated releases of the same systems - as, for example, windows 7 (vista) is far more resource hungry than XP which pound for pound is a leaner, fighting fit but older system next to fat out of shape 7/vista where they take the bloating problem so seriously they try and limit the instances an application can have and I'm sat there doing registry tweaks because I have 16 gig ram to support their stupid inefficiency and I can have 20 instances of excel open should I so choose and want.. - how to you explain that if it were not for profit ?

kwikbreaks

andydiysaver wrote: »

All effort to turn my computer into a bloody apple iphone will be lost on me

My take on the train wreck that is the new Windows 8 UI (which I have pretty much entirely bypassed by using classic shell) isn't to promote iPhones it's an attempt to use the huge volume of desktop users to boost sales of the even bigger train wreck which is Windows Mobile. I liked XP, had an intense dislike of Vista, tolerated Windows 7 and have done as much as I can to hide away the mobile phone side of Windows 8. I haven't been seriously tempted by Linux and certainly not by the Mac. If it weren't for Classic Shell I may well have been.

almillar

andydiysaver (and others blaming Microsoft) - Microsoft supported Windows XP for 14 years. How much did you pay for your copy? How long do you expect them to continue to support it? What other companies support an OS for that long, and how much do they cost? Windows XP was designed to run on 128MB of RAM (or 64MB if you left some stuff out) - how much RAM does your smartphone have? Time to let go...

lazer

almillar wrote: »

andydiysaver (and others blaming Microsoft) - Microsoft supported Windows XP for 14 years. How much did you pay for your copy? How long do you expect them to continue to support it? What other companies support an OS for that long, and how much do they cost? Windows XP was designed to run on 128MB of RAM (or 64MB if you left some stuff out) - how much RAM does your smartphone have? Time to let go...

They were still selling licences for Windows XP in 2010 (for Netbooks) October 2010, I would expect support to to last for more than 3.5years after the last sales of it.

It is all to easy to quote that it has been going for 14 years etc, but in reality some-one could have bought a new computr in Oct 2010 and is now facing the need to buy a new one or updated version of windows.