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What would be fair amount for a 21 year old to pay?
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I am not sure I would consider a three way split fair. It depends on a lot of things. For example, a mortgage on a property he won't necessarily get the benefit of the investment in seems distinctly unfair but bills if he is in the house as much as everyone does not.
I certainly wouldn't be buying toiletries for another adult. I wondered if this was a 'girl thing' but asked DH and he started gradulaly buying his own about when he started shaving, as a teen, much like I did and my girlfriends did.
I do think a man on a decent salary and at his age might well be right to consider independence or sharing with people who aren't family.0 -
If he's taking home close to £2000 a month then he has plenty left to save, if he's spending it on other things then it's his problem. He should be grateful he doesn't have all of the household bills to pay himself, as he'll get a shock when he does.
I think £300 per month is very reasonable, I would also be expecting him to buy his own groceries or contribute towards them too.
I definitely wouldn't back down on it, infact if he leaves over it (I'm guessing he won't and he's probably just hoping you'll back down) then he'll probably learn a few lessons anyway. Maybe suggest to him that it might be time for him to fly the nest if he isn't happy with the set up?0 -
I have put my son's board up to £300 pcm from today,he thinks it's too much. He even thought £250 was too much, he thinks £200 is fair. He said he wants to get on the housing ladder eventually, but can't save up a deposit if I charge him so much.
I think he is comparing to his friends who's parents have well paid jobs, possible paid off their mortgage and their son's are still studying
Balletshoes: A third of the household outgoings is £375 pcm. I worked it out today, because my son asked me to, not that it has improved anything
in my opinion then, as you're not charging him as much as a third of the house bills, he's getting a good deal with £300 - and I'd be sticking to that figure.0 -
I think your son is being unfair, and unrealistic but given he hasn't lived on his own before, has no idea how much bills and running your own home cost.
I think it's probably a good thing that he moves out.
If you really do want him to stay, then I agree 1/3rd is reasonable for bills and food/toiletires.0 -
just fyi this would be his take home pay pm.
Monthly £1,991.48
http://www.incometaxcalculator.org.uk/index.php?yr=2013&age=0&time=1&ingr=31000&calculate=Calculate
cheers, hth, scotti0 -
Thank you all so much for your time & trouble. I do feel better about it now.
As some said perhaps I should not ask him to contribute to a share of the mortgage. My mortgage in itself is actually small, so a third of the rest minus mortgage and house insurance would be £295.;)
I would just like to clarify, he does buy his own aftershave etc (he has expensive tastes) and I was just about to type shaving gear, however my partner has just corrected me and informed me that he nicks his!
It's usually just things like antiperspirant and shampoo he adds to my grocery list.0 -
I have put my son's board up to £300 pcm from today,he thinks it's too much. He even thought £250 was too much, he thinks £200 is fair. He said he wants to get on the housing ladder eventually, but can't save up a deposit if I charge him so much.
I think he is comparing to his friends who's parents have well paid jobs, possible paid off their mortgage and their son's are still studying
Balletshoes: A third of the household outgoings is £375 pcm. I worked it out today, because my son asked me to, not that it has improved anything
I think he is taking the p*ss to be quite honest! Even if he paid you £375 if he is earning £31k he's got another £1500+ left for spending and saving. I'd tell him to pay up or tell him he's free to move out and see how much paying for everything costs him!0 -
print him out some rooms that he could rent without bills for the same price and let him decide what he wants to do
i would also add a £10 penalty clause for every time that he complains its too expensive
you could pop down all the actual charges for him in addition to his third of the bills like a cleaner someone to do his laundry someone to do his shopping the cost of his shopping a private chef and see how much he really could be paying to have this lifestyle living elsewhereThe only people I have to answer to are my beautiful babies aged 8 and 50 -
as a relatively young person who until recently lived at home, I disagree with the idea of charging kids (even when adults and earning), a penny. I will never charge my kids a single penny when I eventually have them. you have kids knowing they will cost you, if you cant afford to look after and nurture them then don't have them. they don't stop being your kids on your 18th birthday.
look at cultures that have far healthier attitudes to family life, Italians etc, they would never charge their kids rent0 -
Thank you all so much for your time & trouble. I do feel better about it now.
As some said perhaps I should not ask him to contribute to a share of the mortgage. My mortgage in itself is actually small, so a third of the rest minus mortgage and house insurance would be £295.;)
I would just like to clarify, he does buy his own aftershave etc (he has expensive tastes) and I was just about to type shaving gear, however my partner has just corrected me and informed me that he nicks his!
It's usually just things like antiperspirant and shampoo he adds to my grocery list.
To be honest, YOU are not being fair to HIM! How on earth is he going to manage a mortgage plus all the other outgoings that go with house-ownership if he does not pay a realistic amount when he is earning really good money?
He needs to get accustomed to living on a budget - he doesn't "need" all the things that he is spending his money on at the moment ....which he probably can't even account for.0
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