should i be worried

lancs-girl

Iceweasel you just brought laughter back in to our house and our hearts :-) i love it Early-bird discount! - It sounds like breakfast time at KFC

Half_way

If you should get mad at any one, get mad at the people who thought it was a good idea to bring this pathetic joke of a company onto their land, somewhere in the newbies thread is a line about reclaiming your costs against the parking company should this go to POPLA, instead of going for the parking company go for the car park owner.

You will also need to start a complaint against the parking company ( don't think of it as an appeal, its at best a challenge )
as for dealing with it you have a few choices:
do you want to make it go away as fast as possible?
do you want to complain about this company?
do you want to complain and let the land owner/car park owner know that this is totasly unacceptable and the antics of this company must be stopped?

lancs-girl

thanks Half_way for all that information we are scratching our heads again with confusion and where to start so i guess i will just carry on reading posts. thank you all for your help your all a good bunch :-)

Coupon-mad

lancs-girl wrote: »

thanks Half_way for all that information we are scratching our heads again with confusion and where to start so i guess i will just carry on reading posts. thank you all for your help your all a good bunch :-)

I hope you have searched for those keywords I suggested (don't search the ENTIRE MSE forum though!). You will certainly be consigning those rose-coloured specs into the bin, which you were clearly wearing when you thought this was a parking ticket from a genuine firm. Have a laugh at what you learn about Trev and his merry men!

All the acronyms are explained in the NEWBIES thread and I just adjusted the 'first appeal' part to show one suggested template if you don't want to write your own.

Half_way

Poor old Trev, wonder how his claim against the government went http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1347597/Clamping-bosss-4m-payout-bid-Government-claiming-new-anti-cowboy-rules-ruin-business.html

As for all the information most of it was really a question on which way you would like to go with dealing with this.
PersonallyI would challenge this to the company (ANPR ) and tell them that i will be invoicing them or/and the land owner for wasting my time if they dont cancel the charge and allow it to progress to POPLA - should a POPLA challenge be successful.

lancs-girl

thank you all that have helped so far as we have read hours of threads on this site. we have tried to find the land owner who hire anpr but come up with nothing as there is so many shops. by reading the posts we think this is the way we should go about it and if we are wrong please state where we are going wrong.

1. save and ignore ticket and wait for wntd in the post

2. appeal the wntd to anpr as i was not the driver and that im not at liberty to name the so called driver on the day and ask for a copy of the agreement with the land owner.

3. wait for rejection and then appeal to POPLA with the code from anpr with the same reason

4. if i win fine if i don't still don't pay it

thank you all once again for your time and patience :-)

Redx

lancs-girl wrote: »

1. save and ignore ticket and wait for wntd in the post

2. appeal the wntd to anpr as i was not the driver and that im not at liberty to name the so called driver on the day and ask for a copy of the agreement with the land owner.

3. wait for rejection and then appeal to POPLA with the code from anpr with the same reason

4. if i win fine if i don't still don't pay it

:-)

1) you wait for the NTK in the post (if this was a windscreen ticket / charge) - hopefully this will have the landowner (creditor) details on it

2) you can appeal as keeper and not name the driver and ask for the landowner details, chances are ANPR will not name the creditor or produce a contract, they dont have to do so

3) assuming ANPR issue a popla code you appeal to popla and win, then pay nothing at all, its over

if they dont issue the popla code you complain to the BPA and the DVLA

4) that is your choice but if your appeal is successful then there is nothing to pay, if you lost the worst that can happen would be going to court , and there you would either win or lose , so one of you would pay, though I cannot see ANPR going to court over it, but never say never

The_Deep

No, you should not be worried

If half of all Popla appeals are lost, it is because people come up with daft excuses, their waters broke, the dog ate their ticket, they did not see the 26 signs scattered around the car park.

If you challenge their unsolicited invoice on the basis that no breach of contract has occurred as there was no contract in the first place, the so called camera evidence is invalid because the cameras do not have the necessary certification, or that they trespassed on your land, you will win.

Even if you did park for five hours in a P&D without paying you will win because your appeal will be based on the Law of Contract, not the Theft Act.

Coupon-mad

2. appeal the wntd to anpr as i was not the driver and that im not at liberty to name the so called driver on the day and ask for a copy of the agreement with the land owner.

Not quite so complicated as that - when you get the Notice to Keeper (which they like to call an 'Outstanding Parking Notice'!) you can just use the 'first appeal' template letter I wrote which is in the NEWBIES thread. Give Trev our regards...

lancs-girl

we just went back to the owner of home bargains where the ticket was issued and they dont now anything about the joke company in question and said they do now there is a company that looks after the staff car park but they didnt now the alley way was also included so we think the council will have got the company to look after the whole alley way even if the traffic wardens offices is 100 meters away in the police station. there is a road sign on the left as you enter the ally even if it is bent down that means no motor vehicles and on the other side no entry except excess which is facing the wrong way. the first sign for anpr is right opposite another warning sign from a different company.

the anpr sign that applys in this instance right above where our car was left had in red at the bottom these words
NO STOPPING AT ALL. does this mean i stand no chance at all of getting this piece of toilet paper reversed in an appeal ?