Ex Partner wanting Parental Responsibility 10 years after split

FBaby

I can understand OP why you did what you did. You seem to have given your ex plenty of chances to be a dad and he could have applied for pr much sooner. Still your threat highlight why the law changed so that non married fathers obtain automatic pr if on the birth certificate just like their married counterparts.

peachyprice

squirrelchops wrote: »

Err, no it isn't usually as easy for step parents to get PR as easily as this. Ex and father of child would have to have been consulted.........

Nowadays step parents often apply for an adoption order to get PR. Other ways are via a parental responsibility agreement but to my knowledge father of child and he who had PR would have had to have agreed.

https://www.gov.uk/parental-rights-responsibilities/apply-for-parental-responsibility

It's very easy, as long as the mother agrees.

Kayalana99

FBaby wrote: »

I can understand OP why you did what you did. You seem to have given your ex plenty of chances to be a dad and he could have applied for pr much sooner. Still your threat highlight why the law changed so that non married fathers obtain automatic pr if on the birth certificate just like their married counterparts.

Correct me if I'm wrong but these seems to be a dig at the OP saying she is threatening the Dad in some way?

I don't see any threat unless your are talking about declining PR? which I don't see as a threat personally just her not wanting the Dad to have unnecessary rights when he isn't even bothered about contact.

MissMoneypenny

skylight wrote: »

However, few people are refused it (less than 2% of 11,000 in 2006 were refused according to a fathers rights type website).

Unless they have linked their claim to the official UK government statistics on this, then I wouldn't believe them.

i.e. The makers of red wine will say red wine is good for you and will even pay for studies to show that. Sites such as AA, will state the opposite. Both sides have an agenda. They are not independant.

squirrelchops

GeraldineA wrote: »

You are incorrect. If the birth father does not have Pr, the mother of a child can sign a step parent parental responsibility form and that will grant pr to the step parent. See section 4A1a of the Children Act 1989. This form then needs to be taken to a local county court, checked by a clerk, along with id for the mother, stepparent and child plus wedding certificate. We didn't even need an appointment. The pr agreement then comes back in the post.

Apologies, I misread - didn't realise birth father didn't have PR. I see enough of the Children Act every day thank you so shall leave that for now!!!

squirrelchops

peachyprice wrote: »

https://www.gov.uk/parental-rights-responsibilities/apply-for-parental-responsibility

It's very easy, as long as the mother agrees.

As I have just said, I didn't realise birth father didn't have PR. If he did it would have been a lot longer process.

Also that link to the .gov site is regarding birth fathers, my post was about step parents getting PR.

tatabubbly

So you didn't tell her biological dad you were signing over PR to your partner? Eh, why?

I'm going to go against the grain here as a child who was in this situation and say that maybe, just maybe he has changed?

Kayalana99

tatabubbly wrote: »

So you didn't tell her biological dad you were signing over PR to your partner? Eh, why?

I'm going to go against the grain here as a child who was in this situation and say that maybe, just maybe he has changed?

It's not 'signing over' its adding someone extra to the PR list.

Maybe he has, maybe he will - but surely he should prove that first not sending a letter through the door demanding something out of spite.

belfastgirl23

tatabubbly wrote: »

So you didn't tell her biological dad you were signing over PR to your partner? Eh, why?

I'm going to go against the grain here as a child who was in this situation and say that maybe, just maybe he has changed?

I believe in the capacity of individuals to change but his actions suggest otherwise. For example, if he really has changed, I suspect he would be keener to work with his ex and his daughter rather than immediately moving to legal solutions when his wishes aren't fulfilled.

FBaby

Kayalana99 wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but these seems to be a dig at the OP saying she is threatening the Dad in some way?

I don't see any threat unless your are talking about declining PR? which I don't see as a threat personally just her not wanting the Dad to have unnecessary rights when he isn't even bothered about contact.

Just read this message. It wasn't a dig at all I meant my words. I do feel OP has done way above what she had to to accommodate contact. I should have separated the two comments are not linked at all (as indeed providing opposite views).