We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

I start a Work Placement

17810121334

Comments

  • stix62
    stix62 Posts: 1,021 Forumite
    Denning. wrote: »
    Are people dying from lack of food or lack of heat? ....

    Asking that is so ignorant.
  • Denning.
    Denning. Posts: 2,749 Forumite
    melysion wrote: »
    Between 810 and 1,350 Londoners died in 2012/13 because their homes were too cold.

    So yes, people are dying from lack of heat. Some of these will be pensioners of course, but not all. Fuel poverty is real, and it does kill people, including the unemployed (which I am sure you probably aren't that concerned about anyway, Denning)

    Oh you're back, doctor of death. We going to really get into who cares about who the most? You already showed your self up for your true self.

    'Because their homes were too cold' is completely misleading. Show that it was too cold because they couldn't afford to heat it. Show that there wasn't underlying conditions which made them especially susceptible to the cold.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    Denning. wrote: »
    Are people dying from lack of food or lack of heat? The 'eat of heat' is largely nonsense, what it really means is 'I can't eat what I want and heat how much I want'. Want and need are not the same. If you need for something you are in poverty, if you just want for something you are not.
    Well I haven't eaten since dinner last night but no not dying.

    I would have thought heating was a need not a want

    I do know wants and needs are separate things as I did study economics.
    We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • Denning.
    Denning. Posts: 2,749 Forumite
    stix62 wrote: »
    You need to look up the definition of Poverty.

    You're talking about absolute poverty / destitution.

    You're talking about economic inequality, which is stupid.
  • melysion
    melysion Posts: 801 Forumite
    edited 12 February 2014 at 2:42PM
    Denning. wrote: »
    Oh you're back, doctor of death. We going to really get into who cares about who the most? You already showed your self up for your true self.

    'Because their homes were too cold' is completely misleading. Show that it was too cold because they couldn't afford to heat it. Show that there wasn't underlying conditions which made them especially susceptible to the cold.

    Well, thank you. I am indeed a doctor - although admittedly not of death. We don't believe in killing people where I come from :)

    Just be aware that I have already reported you and will continue to do so while you persevere with your unwarranted personal attacks. Trust me, honey, I am pretty damn sure it wasn't me that was shown to be a particularly unpleasant individual yesterday :)

    As for your last sentence - looking at that now, just for you - although admittedly I do have work to do so it will probably have to wait until this evening. Many apologies :D
  • Denning.
    Denning. Posts: 2,749 Forumite
    AP007 wrote: »
    Well I haven't eaten since dinner last night but no not dying.

    I would have thought heating was a need not a want

    I do know wants and needs are separate things as I did study economics.

    Heat/warmth is, heating isn't, necessarily.

    melysion wrote: »

    Just be aware that I have already reported you and will continue to do so while you persevere with your unwarranted personal attacks :)

    I'm not surprised you are one of those people, don't like when people correct you so cry. I haven't personally attacked you, I pointed out that the result of your priorities is the premature death of cancer patients.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    Denning. wrote: »
    Heat/warmth is, heating isn't, necessarily.


    .
    Not sure how you can get warm or have heat without heating.

    Broken windows and drafts in the building wont help but if I had some £ I could get the window fixed and then have less of a draft. What joy
    We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • KevInChester
    KevInChester Posts: 458 Forumite
    edited 12 February 2014 at 2:51PM
    Denning, you seem to believe that the £71 per week is just swallowed up into some black hole. It isn't. The money goes back into the economy.

    You do realise that the benefit bill is largely high due to uncapped rents? How's about large corporations not paying any tax? What about the filthy rich using off shore banks to avoid paying tax on earnings?

    Do you have any ire reserved for them, or do you only kick people when they are down?

    ps. I work and don't claim any benefit at all. I do not begrudge paying my taxes for those who do and who have a genuine need.
  • Denning.
    Denning. Posts: 2,749 Forumite
    melysion wrote: »
    You didn't correct me at all my dear. You just showed yourself to be a complete c*ck :)

    When you have the time, please do show me some statistics that show the direct correlation between allowing the unemployable like GG to live and premature cancer deaths. I give you my word that I will be all apologies when you have those stats. :)

    Reported for vile offensive personal attacks.

    You want me to prove that if we didn't spend money on those who don't wish to work we could spend more on life prolonging cancer drugs? Go troll elsewhere.
  • melysion
    melysion Posts: 801 Forumite
    Denning. wrote: »
    Reported for vile offensive personal attacks.

    You want me to prove that if we didn't spend money on those who don't wish to work we could spend more on life prolonging cancer drugs? Go troll elsewhere.

    Nope, not a troll.

    And, yes I do. I love stats. Come on, lets see you put your money where your mouth is.

    edit: On second thoughts - don't bother - I know you cant so I am asking the impossible. Lets just agree to ignore each other. Better all round for everyone, don't you think :)
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 245K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.4K Life & Family
  • 258.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.