I start a Work Placement

melysion

paulineb wrote: »

Ive posted on the boards before. Ive worked part time and I was worse off after rent and travel costs were taken into account. I didnt get enough hours to get WTC, I didnt even get my NI stamp paid, I was worse off than I would have been on JSA, but for my own sake and to get something on the CV I took the work.

I dont earn tons of money now, Im a freelance fitness instructor. If I wasnt doing that, Id probably still be sitting on the dole now. I do know what its like to live in a poor area where there are hundreds of people chasing jobs. I also certainly dont agree with everything the Govt are trying to do re workfare.

But there has to come a point where people take responsibility for themselves. I do know people who are happy to live on benefit. Some people on the estate I live on get a very decent amount of benefits. One woman has 6 kids and she'll get at least the equivalent of £14000 a year in benefits, proabably more. I do know kids are expensive as well, but with income support and child tax credits I bet she was better off than I was when I was on JSA of 71 quid a week. Theres no incentive for people like her to work because childcare costs are so high. I think shes worked perhaps a few weeks in the 20 or so years shes been here and I only know that because there was an issue about her being evicted for rent arrears which somehow I got dragged into (her mates threatend to burn my home down because she thought Id reported her for anti social behaviour, she was actually evicted for non payment of rent, I didnt report her or know anything about it until I was threatened).

It is a lifestyle choice for some people. Not all. I hear conversations on the bus where people have spoken openly about what they will do if they are kicked off what was the old Incapacity Benefit, fake an epileptic fit etc. Some people dont want to work. Some people want to work very much. I wouldnt label every single person who is unemployed as work shy, I know how tough it is. But some people dont want to come off benefits.

And some people dont make life any easier for themselves by trying to start poor me threads when other people who have been unemployed got off their !!!! and retrained and managed to find work. My brother was out of work for some time, he actually got offered two jobs with the civil service, but there wasnt a position for him at that time, they told him it would be 12 months. He retrained as a gym instructor and hes now a personal trainer.

I also dont think its necessary to have perfect spelling or grammar and I wouldnt necessarily label anyone unemployable. But there are things people who are on JSA can do. Volunteer, look into part time study. I know its tough, but some people really dont help themselves with their attitude.

No one owes anyone a living.

Very nice post

melysion

paulineb wrote: »

Oh god knows, probably trying to think up something inventive for his next saga, sorry, thread.

We can only hope its not T shirt related ...

paulineb_2

melysion wrote: »

We can only hope its not T shirt related ...

Or sexy tutor related. Sorry for being so cynical, but I cannot help thinking the day the OP does get a job, there will probably be something wrong with the job.

They wont let him wear his T shirt for example.

melysion

paulineb wrote: »

Or sexy tutor related. Sorry for being so cynical, but I cannot help thinking the day the OP does get a job, there will probably be something wrong with the job.

They wont let him wear his T shirt for example.

Oh yes. Forgot about the sexy tutor <rolls eyes>

KevInChester

paulineb wrote: »

Or sexy tutor related. Sorry for being so cynical, but I cannot help thinking the day the OP does get a job, there will probably be something wrong with the job.

They wont let him wear his T shirt for example.

Perhaps he could become a piece of performance art.

sarah_ace1

on a bright side, my eldest did a placement at a charity shop, then a couple of days in a warehouse and they have taken him on full time :beer:

red_devil

szam_ wrote: »

Congratulations on missing my point entirely.

How did i. You are praising placements. I am saying its punishment for the unemployed and a way to fiddle the figures. There is nothing good about it all. Read boycott welfare site.

RichardD1970

red_devil wrote: »

How did i. You are praising placements. I am saying its punishment for the unemployed and a way to fiddle the figures. There is nothing good about it all. Read boycott welfare site.

Like that's going to be balanced and impartial. :rotfl:

NiallB

red_devil wrote: »

How did i. You are praising placements. I am saying its punishment for the unemployed and a way to fiddle the figures. There is nothing good about it all. Read boycott welfare site.

Ooh, I've just found this chip. Did somebody drop it?

red_devil

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Like that's going to be balanced and impartial. :rotfl:

Have you read it all probably not.