Tesco's EA charging £199

lynzpower

Lucy_Skyward wrote: »

HOUSE PRICES KEEP GOING UP AND UP AND UP

erm no they dont bruno

Generali

On the Tescos thing, we get the food we deserve. If Brits were prepared to pay for better food in the supermarket, they'd get it. If you live in a country that considers the 3 most imoprtant things about food to be how much is it? how much do I get? and what's the minimum time I have to spend cooking and eating it? then you're going to get supermarkets that sell [EMAIL="cr@p"]!!!!!![/EMAIL].

Go to a supermarket in France and check out the cheese, chickens or fish. Compare and contrast. Why is their food better? Because they won't eat the rubbish the Brits are prepared to.

Back to the topic. Tescos are providing a lesser service at a lower price. If you think the EA adds that much value (e.g. shownig people around, dealing with disputes etc) then use it. If you don't, don't.

Phirefly

bugly wrote: »

Where is the rag trade? I thought that was being devastated by the labels syndrome and associated loss of market sector. Have you actually considered selling to Tesco and joining the hundreds of suppliers who are doing quite nicely out of it? Our economy is suffering from the brits attitude of it worked then why shouldn't it work now, times are changing and the consumer is at last benefiting.

We cannot supply Tesco as they want to retail a garment from us for less than we can have it made and shipped from our ethical UK, Dubai and Turkey manufacturers.

Instead we supply retailers who have more demanding standards and are prepared to pay for our excellent UK design. These retailers pass on these costs to the customer, but we're only talking a matter of a few pounds. If people couldn't buy a top for less than £10, they'd pay the extra. This throwaway £5 clothing is a scurge, I hate the culture of buying some cheap loss leading rag from tesco just cos its such a bargain, only to wash it once, it go out of shape and throw it away, what a waste. No wonder the masses look so scruffy, they've allowed themselves to fall into the bargain retailers trap. You don't catch the Spanish or Italians trudging about in an out of shape supermaket t shirt.

Agreed, Tesco is a business and its all about the bottom line but it won't stay this way. The prevailing attitude is changing and it won't be long before consumers start demanding more. Its happened in the food sector, this time 10 years ago, the average person wouldn't even know what organic was, let alone be demanding his porridge carry the soil association mark. Asda for example are investing in their 'Made In UK' fashion range and unless other retailers step up to the mark on this, they're going to lose custom eventually.

UK fashion is one of our best assets as a nation, it sets us apart and we're admired all over the world for it. SUPPORT IT!!!!!!!!

Sorry to go off topic again, but nerve>hit.

bugly_2

House prices have peaked, but region prices are still fluctuating and London is reported to be falling. (except the big ones with foregin buyers). Maybe the cheaper selling options will help the poor sods who find the rising intrest rates have caught them out and help those trying to get on the ladder. Anyone who considers housing as a short term gain at the moment is playing with fire. Look at the lettings market, a better return in a building society account according to MSN finance.

Doozergirl

bugly wrote: »

But what do I know I am only a business manager.

Congratulations. I'm a company director. Why on earth does that mean that people should listen to me or that my point is more valid than others?

bugly_2

Phirefly
It is off topic but sorry i take offence at posting on a money saving site and making a statement like
'If people couldn't buy a top for less than £10, they'd pay the extra. This throwaway £5 clothing is a scurge, I hate the culture of buying some cheap loss leading rag from tesco just cos its such a bargain'
Are you suggesting we should not have a choice of low priced items just so you can trade in your way?. And we cover the costs of you doing this. Tesco QC is strict, i wouldnt call it throw away clothing. Surley you are trading in a different market sector and not the money saving area that tesco hits on?.

Sorry to continue off topic but this hits at the foundation of this site and is an interesting debate.
The house price rise, shows how people look for personal gain over morals, everyone who sells at an increasing price is supporting the rising market and locking out first time buyers. It would be nice to afford such morals but, that doesn't feed the kids.
My house will sell for 160k , this is 50k under its market value as it isnt refurbished, do i go for the kill and spend 10 k doing it up or do i offer it to first time buyers at a lower price and let them do it up.
Your clothes will cost me more than tesco the kids will still play in them and destroy them, so do i support a few local suppliers or the masses of people who earn a living from employment with Tesco who exploit other countries whose economies are built on cheap labour .

bugly_2

Doozergirl
It doesn't it states that i might be talking from a point of view with some experience. if you told me something to do with running a business i would consider it informed thinking. is that not why we post, to use other peoples skills and experiences? and then make our own choices.

courtjester

bugly wrote: »

House network I will check that out? I just assumed the only option until Tesco were estate agent rip off or try and sell it yourself. Thanks.

The majority of the public still have this mindset that 'only estate agents sell property', which is patently untrue and only goes to show that people continue to ignore internet options that have been around for years - there is nothing new or innovative about Tesco's offering, the leading online home sale companies have been offering this same service for 5-10 years.

It's up to homeowners to use private services rather than just moan about agents all the time if they want the sector to grow and give greater choice. Looking at what Tesco are offering, there are clearly much better services already existing that have been around for many years, provide greater advertising exposure for properties, at much lower cost (hence much better value) and doubtless with greater experience in the market - after all, Tesco are still only a 'start up' when it comes to selling property... they appear to have priced their offering relying upon people thinking this is a 'first'...

Housenetwork are part of the 'new breed' of "online estate agents" that have sprung up especially in the last 12 months - hybrids between the pure private sale sites and traditional high street estate agents, taking advantage of a loophole which permits them to list private sellers on Rightmove, because they are technically classed as 'agencies' under the law.

However, Rightmove have in the past taken a commercial view of this to protect the businesses of their true agent owners (Halifax, Connells and Countrywide) and subscribers. They closed access to private sale websites in 2004 and are currently considering their terms as they have become concerned at the number of services masquerading as 'online agents' who are really offering no more than private sale services with Rightmove listing included.

It's anticipated that Rightmove will move to further restrict access to their site and "online only" agents such as Housenetwork face having their contracts ended, which will leave them and the many other companies around the country that have launched with this 'innovative' approach in severe difficulties as Rightmove is central to their market.

People considering using an online agent claiming to list on Rightmove (and some of the other agent-only portals like Findaproperty) should be wary that this might be short-lived.

Phirefly

Originally Posted by bugly
Are you suggesting we should not have a choice of low priced items just so you can trade in your way?

Yes that is PRECISELY what I am suggesting.

I don't have kids myself yet but I have 4 neices and do understand family economics. My sister and sister-in-law run their households on a tight budget, but in the same way that they try to give the kids organic and UK produced food where possible, they also prefer to spend a couple of pounds more (and thats literally ALL we're talking, a couple of pounds) on a well made garment for the little ones from an ethical retailer.

Its part of the uk mentality that cheap=value but this simply isn't true. Thats contrary to the fundamental principle of Money Saving Expert; making your money stretch but in the right way, and choosing your compromises in an educated manner. Hammering down prices on the high street does not neccessarily benefit the consumer, I'm sure you don't need me to go into the economic principles behind this view.

Without wishing to make a slanderous comment about Tesco in particular, I will say that anyone who has ever spent any time in the industry knows that QC is a joke across the board. Its a token gesture.

We supply across the market from leading edge branded fashion, through high street multiples to supermarkets, I'm not a property expert but I DO know what I'm talking about on the topic of fashion supply and retail.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Generali

The trouble with preventing people from making choices about cheap things, especially essentials is that you end up with a Corn Law/Potato Famine situation.

Good food is very important to me. I get a lot of pleasure from eating well. However, the majority of Brits would rather live off factory farmed rubbish meaning I have to go to a lot of expense to eat well. The thing is, not everyone can afford to eat like I do. If everyone was forced to buy really good meat, properly reared and butchered then meat wuold become an occasional treat rather than an everyday item. It's not for me to enforce my choice on others.

In the same way, EAs don't (and shouldn't) have the right to impose a particular model of house selling on people. Nor should Tescos be banned from selling cheap, poor quality clothing just because some people don't want them to do so.