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Would you change a flat tyre on a motorway hard shoulder?

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  • RichardD1970
    RichardD1970 Posts: 3,796 Forumite
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    Just to throw into the mix. What about on motorways that have active traffic management, where the hard shoulder is used depending on congestion.

    These have extra emergency refuge areas along these sections.

    M42-trials-of-hard-shoulder-use.jpg

    Would people use these to change a wheel, with or without the hard shoulder in use?

    I personally would feel a lot safer using these than just on the hard shoulder.
  • MrsE_2
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    opinions4u wrote: »
    Did you read the post?

    It explained it.

    I'll also add, it will be safer for me sat 30 feet up the embankment.

    Safer for the car because the RAC man changes it instead of you?

    I don't understand that.

    Isn't it the same process whoever changes it?
  • marleyboy wrote: »
    I guess that depends on their circumstances. I imagine it could be an emergency for the driver involved. I have not seen any laws that state pulling over to assist them is illegal.

    Would be happy to be proved wrong on this, particularly as it is not something I would choose to do, however do feel free to show me where it states this is illegal.

    It's an offence to stop on the hard shoulder, the defence is it's an emergency.

    Is there a stated case to say someone else's breakdown is an emergency?
  • MrsE wrote: »
    Safer for the car because the RAC man changes it instead of you?

    I don't understand that.

    Isn't it the same process whoever changes it?

    Safer because of the warning beacons on the truck. No a lot safer though.
  • Lum
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    The truck also acts as a handy barrier to catch the drunken sleepy person before they get too near to the unprotected people.
  • brat
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    It's an offence to stop on the hard shoulder, the defence is it's an emergency.

    Is there a stated case to say someone else's breakdown is an emergency?
    Just to clarify, before Cap'n Rodney makes up more stuff he overheard from Roy Barraclough down the Nag's Head; :silenced:

    The relevant regs covering this are The Motorways Traffic (England and Wales) Regulations 1982

    Reg 9 (precised) says that no vehicle shall be driven or stop or remain at rest on any hard shoulder except in the following circumstances
    • a)breakdown/mechanical defect
    • b)accident illness etc
    • c)to pick up an object that has fallen onto the motorway
    • d)to permit any person carried in or on the vehicle to give help which is required by any other person in any of the circumstance of a) b) or c) above.

    So any person can stop to assist another if they have broken down etc.

    The police will generally stop to see if the driver of a broken down vehicle needs assistance, unless they have another more pressing task. The motorway emergency telephones go direct to the HA rather than police HQs like they did a decade ago.
    Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.
  • brat wrote: »
    Just to clarify, before Cap'n Rodney makes up more stuff he overheard from Roy Barraclough down the Nag's Head; :silenced:

    The relevant regs covering this are The Motorways Traffic (England and Wales) Regulations 1982

    Reg 9 (precised) says that no vehicle shall be driven or stop or remain at rest on any hard shoulder except in the following circumstances
    • a)breakdown/mechanical defect
    • b)accident illness etc
    • c)to pick up an object that has fallen onto the motorway
    • d)to permit any person carried in or on the vehicle to give help which is required by any other person in any of the circumstance of a) b) or c) above.

    So any person can stop to assist another if they have broken down etc.

    The police will generally stop to see if the driver of a broken down vehicle needs assistance, unless they have another more pressing task. The motorway emergency telephones go direct to the HA rather than police HQs like they did a decade ago.

    So why be a !!!!!! about it? You could have posted that first time.
  • marleyboy
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    I guess that is the polite way of showing you just how wrong you were. ;)
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  • paddedjohn
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    Go on then Rodney, do the honourable thing and admit you were wrong and we were all right.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
  • Gavin83
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    I've had two tyres explode on me while travelling on the motorway, both the n/s front. One I changed, at night in the rain and one I had to call the breakdown people out as my car doesn't come with a spare. The last breakdown I had the breakdown guy actually told me it was illegal to do yourself.

    These days I don't know. n/s I'd consider it, o/s no way.

    Theres also no way I'd be stopping to help someone change a tyre on the hard shoulder. I'm not risking my life because a stranger is too stupid to get breakdown cover.
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