MSE News: Thousands of tenants to get bedroom tax rebate

missnjg

wildwestfan wrote: »

So are the other people happy paying either the full rent or making the shortfall up if they are claiming HB? Some people do still pay their own rent you know and quite willing to pay for the luxury of a spare room.

I dont know, but I am now be paying all my own rent as I'm working full time, the rent and council tax on my new property with the same housing association is more expensive than the larger property!

nannytone_2

wildwestfan wrote: »

Some older people are happy to sell their property and live in rented, especially if they can get social housing. No more worries about maintenance etc plus having money to give away or spend as they wish. I know several people who have done this.

We have a higher income from pensions than we had when working. I am sure we could manage to pay our own rent if we needed to.

having such a fine pension is dreat for you.
but what if you had been born disabled and never had the opportunity to make pension provision?
thats just tough i suppose?

~Chameleon~

wildwestfan wrote: »

Some older people are happy to sell their property and live in rented, especially if they can get social housing. No more worries about maintenance etc plus having money to give away or spend as they wish. I know several people who have done this.

If someone in work sold their home to apply for SH they would be refused as they would have made themselves intentionally homeless. So, why are pensioners allowed to do this?

And you didn't answer my other question. What about the pensioner(s) who lives in the 2, 3 or 4 bedroom house that would otherwise have the benefit reduction imposed on those below pension age?

Seems, it's one rule for one and one rule for another. Perhaps when I reach pension age I should sell up, pay of the kids' mortgages and move into a sheltered bungalow!

custardy

missnjg wrote: »

Which as I said in my earlier post, I would be paying for as I now work full time and pay full rent and council tax!! So I could have stayed put and as I would be paying for it people like you wouldn't have to complain!! :mad:

So in short,the post where you said for me to get my facts right.
Had the facts right.
Sorted.

You are going on about what if. Had you been working then HB wouldn't have been an issue.
At that point in time you werent.

wildwestfan

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

What about those living in 2, 3 or 4 bed properties?

The ones living in 1 bed sheltered accommodation are not a problem, they're suitably housed.

You suggested that ALL pensioners have their rent paid by Housing Benefit. If they are happy in their big homes and are paying the rent themselves what is the issue? As far as I am concerned it is a simple issue that the taxpayer should not be paying for anyone to have spare rooms

missnjg

custardy wrote: »

So in short,the post where you said for me to get my facts right.
Had the facts right.
Sorted.

You are going on about what if. Had you been working then HB wouldn't have been an issue.
At that point in time you werent.

I have always worked!! at the time this ruling affected me and forced me to move I was working part time and was entitled to a small amount of housing benefit!!

custardy

missnjg wrote: »

I have always worked!! at the time this ruling affected me and forced me to move I was working part time and was entitled to a small amount of housing benefit!!

I'm not really sure why you still are going on with this.
I will type slowly.
you circumstances have changed.At that time they were different. things change

wildwestfan

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

If someone in work sold their home to apply for SH they would be refused as they would have made themselves intentionally homeless. So, why are pensioners allowed to do this?

And you didn't answer my other question. What about the pensioner(s) who lives in the 2, 3 or 4 bedroom house that would otherwise have the benefit reduction imposed on those below pension age?

None of the pensioners I know sold their homes prior to being given a social housing tenancy. That would have been a very silly thing to do and I don't know many silly older people. A degree of wisdom often comes with age.

In my area as long as you meet the criteria for a property then you can bid on it. No one asks how much money you have or even if you own a property. Much easier for a lot of older people to move into rental rather than sell and have to look for another property. It's all about choices.

GirlFromMars_2

missnjg wrote: »

I have always worked!! at the time this ruling affected me and forced me to move I was working part time and was entitled to a small amount of housing benefit!!

... not that I agree with the bedroom tax ... at least not in it's current incarnation, as it is exceptionally unfair to many of the most disadvantaged in society ...

BUT ... what you appear to be complaining about is not having done your sums before deciding to move ... ultimately with all the curtains & furniture problems & other costs associated with moving it sounds like you barely broke even by choosing to move instead of paying the bedroom tax ... and given you are in work, and not disabled, and had every chance of your income improving in the future (as it has) and every chance of having to pay the full larger rent on your new smaller property (which you are now doing) ... I think what you're really complaining about is your own lack of thought about the possible outcomes to your own situation ...

... from what I understand you may be entitled to compensation as you moved because of your bedroom tax having been mis-calculated! ... good luck with that!

... and what happens when your daughter comes home from University? ... hopefully she still has a room with you, as the government are doing their best to truly disadvantage anyone under 25 who isn't lucky enough to fall straight into a well paid job!

missnjg

custardy wrote: »

I'm not really sure why you still are going on with this.
I will type slowly.
you circumstances have changed.At that time they were different. things change

perhaps if you are forced to leave a home and neighbourhood you have lived in for over 17 years you would understand!!!