MSE Newborn to 1 year (& beyond!) baby club 3

Bangton

Hey everyone. Firstly cleofish.. my son is 15 weeks and has the mamas and papas snug and he's not totally steady in it either. His head is very stable if say, he sits on my lap but in the snug his head bobs. He's also still quite sicky (was on lf milk but took him off it due to constipation... He is now fine on normal first milk although he had lots of funny symptoms before the lf milk). Because of the sick I also feel tummy time is limited as it puts too much pressure on his tum but we have one of those roller things and as he is more upright on it he's less sick that way. Works for us. So yeah your daughter sounds just like my son at that age and to be honest I'm always getting comments that's he's ahead for his age (from other mums). Not sure that's true but I find other mums advice reassuring! !! On that note please can someone help me with my panicking. Did anyone sleep train their los? Because of reflux we've had some terrible nights but on that front he is just starting to improve. We also brought bedtime forward from 10.30pm to 7.30/8pm last week and he slept through twice (just shy of 11hrs) and on the other nights did 9hrs followed by 2.5 more after an early morning feed. Regardless he got up at 7.30am but so far this week he's only sleeping 9. I say 'only' loosely as I know that's good but he wakes up really really cross and rubbing his eyes and while he seems hungry he tosses his head side to side and won't take bottle. To that's over tired so why does he wake? He won't settle back down either and on both mornings he's pooed within 20 mins of waking. He has been dropping off more like 8-8.15 though and I'm wondering if his bedtime is now too late. His day naps are also a battle. I know it's slack but he has 3 naps in day and all of them are in stroller and are between 1 and 2.5hrs but so far this week they've been a bit of a battle too. He doesn't go down in cot in day and I've got to stage where I don't know whether to force it or keep letting him sleep in stroller till he's a bit older as no naps mean a cross baby. (Actually it's not always pram, he sleeps in rocker, on me and in sling too. . Just not his cot). I've successfully put him in cot a few times but as soon as I have to go out on a particular day he won't go in it following day!! I don't know whether I should just chill or whether I'm causing bad sleep habits in day. I feel unwell today and my oh says I'm making a mountain out of molehill but after just one week of good sleep im back to worrying he's not getting enough in total (although I'm certainly getting enough sleep with 9hrs it's him I worry about as I've read babies need 15hrs in 24hrs and he certainly isn't getting that this week and he's not my usual happy fella either! !) Sorry for going on. . Can't see wood for trees today.

Bangton

I'm so sorry that's so hard to read. i'm On phone and it removes the paragraphs! !!

minimuffin12

Bangton, I would take the sleep advice with a pinch of salt, I dont think my lo has slept 15hrs from he was a newborn! 2hrs napping is good so dont worry and 11 at night is great, 9 is goof too.. I naively thought a few weeks ago that lo has mastered sleeping through, then he suddenly kept waking during the night. Its been better this week but could change again! Every day varies here for naps, lo has just woken up from a 2hr one but other days its not as long. He only has one other one in morning.

My lo sometimes is rubbing his eyes half an hr after he wakes up too.
Im no expert but are you waking him at same time every day? We do, as I read it re sets their body clocks and a friend told me to do it when we were settling into a routine. Bedtime is always same time too, most nights. Dont panic, you are doing fab

lazywife

Bangton, I think you're doing just fine. I agree with your bringing the bedtime to 7-8ish rather than 10.30 now as he seems to benefit from it. Is there something that happens at 7.30 am to wake him? LO normally wakes at 6.30 as that's when the heating comes on in the morning, and he's obviously slightly stirring so it wakes him. (I don't mind the early start as it means I can get a shower before OH goes to work). He then has a nap about 9, so only up for a couple of hours before he's rubbing his eyes again. I've only just got into putting him into his cot for naps over the past few weeks, he wouldn't settle in there previously. I'd let him nap on me, use the pushchair or would often put him in his car seat (please don't flame me!) for his morning nap... only 30 mins or so.... so at least I can get stuff done around the house. It seemed to cocooon him enough so he'd have a short sleep.
Cleo, we weren't big on tummy time and T held his head up from quite an early stage. Never fussed too much about him always resting on one side, but having read MrsH's experience, I'd pay more attention now. I did try to feed him if he was having a rest on me on the opposite side he used to lie on, so it mixed it up a bit. Not leaking as such, but certainly can't hold it as long as I used to, a few more pelvic floors for me I think!
T had another full night last night, so I'm feeling a bit spoilt, although he's hardly had any rest today, so spoilt but knackered (more than if I got up for 10 mins in the night as at least I have had a bit of a sit down in the day at some point... oh dear, shouldn't grumble really should I!). Also I'm hungry and grumpy as I'm trying to lose weight before I go back to work, so I'm on soups, salads etc, missing my afternoon chocolate. And OH been absent over the past few days and I'm tired of chasing T around the house, trying to eat everything he can get to. I've a bite mark on my shoulder when he caught me by surprise and I've just noticed teeth mark scuffs on our leather sofa along the arm.... grrr. Also he looks like he's been bashed up as keeps puling himself up, then bumping into things as he falls down. He's a big bruise coming up on his cheek and forehead at the moment from where he bounced between the radiator and the DVD rack.
Aaaaaanyway, hope everyone else is having a good day.

lao_cat

Bangton, in your situation I would give sleep training a miss, the last thing you want to do is mess with a reasonably well sleeping baby. 1-2 hour naps and 9hrs at night is fantastic! C wakes up if he needs to poo most of the time and if he doesn't he poops and then wakes up, so that may well of been it! On the other hand in this house I am losing the will to live. 30 min cat naps all day, 2 hours to settle at night and up every hour or so I am reaching the end of my rope. Sleep deprivation for me and DH means increase in snappy arguments and no time together at all. C is still working on a tooth but his gum has a little split in it, DH doesn't want to medicate him at all so another reason to argue, I haven't had more than 2 hrs off since he was born and although I have gone back to yoga everything it's a panic to see if I will be able to make it because c won't settle or DH is anxious about him getting upset.

Cell I had a ventouse delivery and cut, I have had some minor leakage but yoga seems to be rebuilding my pelvic floor. Hopefully the physio ill be able to give you some help.

Mrshaworth2b

Funny your talking about wee's, since have lo, I don't hold water very long, within 15-20 mins of having a drink I need to wee, and it feels so urgent! A lot different to before!

Saffagal

Bangton I don't think A has EVER slept 15hrs in a 24hr period (OH agrees) and she's 8 and a half months now. As for napping, most days I'm lucky if she'll have a half hr in the morning and 20 min in the afternoon. If I go for a drive or a walk she'll sometimes sleep a bit more but it's very hit and miss.
If she did nap, I'd rather she napped where ever she was ie car seat/ sling/ buggy/ floor than only in her cot as it means going out etc won't then upset her "routine" iyswim.

Lazywife lol I had to laugh about your day with T as it sounds just like last week with A! She currently has a bruise on her cheek where she knocked herself on a side table. Her latest trick is using her high chair as a walking aid. I quite agree though, it doesn't matter how good the night is, spending ALL day chasing a LO around is more exhausting than a broken night.

Hope everyone else is well
x

continualdiamond

My LO was also born on 06/10.13.

Tonight she is her crib for the 1st time :sad: Cannot believe the time has come to move her from her moses basket. Okay we might of got away with it for maybe 1 more week but decided to see how she got on tonight.

We were going to use her travel cot in our room for the next 3 months and buy a better mattress for it. But decided to buy a crib instead as a lot easier to move into the lounge during the day.

She's still in our room, next to my side of the bed though.

We ended up buying a bigger sized waterproof mattress protector for it though as weirdly enough they just had fitted sheets. Thought that was a bit pointless when LO still brings milk up sometimes. Person at the store said it was okay to tuck the cover under the mattress, felt a bit nervous if I am honest but then on reflection we did use pillow cases as moses basket mattress covers when the actual covers were in the wash.

I went to my 2nd baby yoga class today and LO got all the attention at one point, it was lovely. We were all facing into a circle and sang 'little green frog' when we did the 1st bit everyone bent their knees as we sang, well my LO found it hillarious and started laughing everytime I bent my knees.

She did it again when I got home and sang the song/did the actions to show my hubby (he has Wed off at works on a Saturday).

Re sitting up. We have a bumbo as well, had it since Christmas. She sits in a bit better now, did tend to go to the side to begin with, however she can't keep her head up for very long and then goes forward. I use it sometimes for a couple of minutes and that's all.

We bought her a tummy mat though at Christmas as she hated it when I placed her on her tummy, it has a little cushion and then toys in front of her and just this week she has reached for the toys and put her head up for longer. She's been on it 3 times this week for about 5 mins max, that is all she can cope with before getting fed up.

I agree that things do get better, but you never believe that when you're recovering/adjusting to being a mum. You just convince yourself it will be hell forever, hahaha. I have my off days still but loving it more and more now. I'm hoping to go back to work at the end of May but money is tight as I earn more than my hubby but I'm desperate to still be off with her, can't bare the thought of her going to anyone else just yet and can't bare the thought of working full time, ideally I want to work 3 days a week.

Aimless

Just had a quick skim back and seen people worried about babies dropping centiles. Sometimes the one they're born on isn't their 'natural' one, and they rise or sink to a line and then follow that. Mine was born on about the 91st, then dropped to around the 25th fairly quickly. Even at two and eating his own bodyweight in gingerbread men given half the chance, he's still following the new line. HV thankfully didn't stress me about it, just said looks like he's going to be little. If they look healthy and seem happy, they might just be adjusting lines.

Bangton

Thanks everyone. I feel silly saying only 9hrs but it's his fussyness that worries me literally from the moment he wakes until he's had another hour and in this mornings case he didn't cheer up till he'd had both naps. I think I'm boring him tbh in day too. . He's getting so clever and I just do same things with him. Today we had a walk and laid on his mat together and he watched my hands (squealed his head off?)and oh aeroplaned him over to me for kisses which he absolutely loved! So he was much happier as I guess it wasn't the usual play mat and mummy making animal noises that I've done since he smiled at 5 weeks! ! hope your all well today ..... Oh continual how did sleeping in cot go? We did it 2 weeks ago and it took a few nights for him to get used to it