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our income... entitled to anything?
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They are working parents thats the main thing....
Are you saying that welfare claimants who work, are better than those welfare claimants who don't? Of course, there is no difference as all claiming parents are asking the welfare state to keep their families.
Some parents who work and claim benefits, get more money from the welfare state than if they didn't work (the benefit called Tax Credits). Fortunately, Tax Credits are being replaced.It shouldnt matter what you earn that makes you hard working or not...
Yet it does. That's why income based welfare payments such as Tax Credits, have cut off points.Some families graft every hour god sends...
Those parents won't be the ones asking for state welfare payments.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
oh course everyone that works
hard is in a decently paying job arent they?
Parents' should teach their children to be hard workers; it's the best gift they can give their children. It starts at school, where the child works hard to get good grades and then a good job.
If they didn't mess about in school and still aren't in a decent paying job, then they (their parents?) didn't think about what employers want.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
my daughter and her husband are both hardworking. and both work full time
they have 2 kiddies and earn a combined salary of about 40k
does that mean they are less hardworking than a person that earns 40k on their own and their partner stays at ho,e with the kids?
of course it doesnt.
income is a poor indicator of whether people are hardworking or not0 -
you really say the most silly things.MissMoneypenny wrote: »Parents' should teach their children to be hard workers; it's the best gift they can give their children. It starts at school, where the child works hard to get good grades and then a good job.
If they didn't mess about in school and still aren't in a decent paying job, then they (their parents?) didn't think about what employers want.
both of my children gained 10 GCSE's at C and above, they both also gained 4 A levels at C and above.
they are cpmpeting with the graduates that cant fond wprk.
so dont say that it is because they didnt work hard that they donty have the jobs that pay the high flying wages.
2 of my grandcholdren are on the gifted and talented programmes.
the 3rd is 13 months and talks as well as most2 year olds and has a vocabulary way above her age.
the 4th grandbaby6 sadly passed awat, but ive no doubt he would have been as intelligent and as wncouraged as the others.
that isnt down to earning potential.. that is down to genetics and good parenting.
neither of which are reliant on income0 -
MissMoneypenny wrote: »Parents' should teach their children to be hard workers; it's the best gift they can give their children. It starts at school, where the child works hard to get good grades and then a good job.
If they didn't mess about in school and still aren't in a decent paying job, then they (their parents?) didn't think about what employers want.
Thats rubbish aswell! Yes stick in at school... Go to uni... Maybe get a good job out of it.. However i have friends that did all that that cant get into the career they wanted to.
My husband for instance left school with 2 gcses, never went to university, get degrees.. He was brought up with a 'do your best' attitude... Yet hes very successful for his age and on more money than some teachers.
So no you dont have to stick in and get your qualifications, to be well paid, and hard working...common sense and life experience goes a long way.
Our combined salary is 46k when im not on mat leave... we have 6 gcses between us, 25 and 26 year old.0 -
you really say the most silly things.
both of my children gained 10 GCSE's at C and above, they both also gained 4 A levels at C and above.
they are cpmpeting with the graduates that cant fond wprk.
so dont say that it is because they didnt work hard that they donty have the jobs that pay the high flying wages.
2 of my grandcholdren are on the gifted and talented programmes.
the 3rd is 13 months and talks as well as most2 year olds and has a vocabulary way above her age.
the 4th grandbaby6 sadly passed awat, but ive no doubt he would have been as intelligent and as wncouraged as the others.
that isnt down to earning potential.. that is down to genetics and good parenting.
neither of which are reliant on income
Well said! Thats why ive stated what ive stated in my last post..!0 -
MissMoneypenny wrote: »If the parents' were "hard working" then they wouldn't be on a low income.
That's harsh on single parents. They only have one salary coming in and it's certainly hard working trying to juggle full time hours and raise a family.MissMoneypenny wrote: »Are you saying that welfare claimants who work, are better than those welfare claimants who don't? Of course, there is no difference as all claiming parents are asking the welfare state to keep their families.
Some parents who work and claim benefits, get more money from the welfare state than if they didn't work (the benefit called Tax Credits). Fortunately, Tax Credits are being replaced.
Depends on the circumstances. Some working parents get less from the state because they are working. Eg: I don't get any help with housing costs or things like free school dinners and free school travel, but I would if I wasn't working.Dovah_diva wrote: »If you are on a low income you should not be having children you cannot afford to support.
Hard working people without children should not be taxed into poverty to pay for other people's lifestyle choices.
What about people who could afford children when they had them, but have since had circumstances change beyond their control?Here I go again on my own....0 -
bloolagoon wrote: »Not really - 2 parents on NMW earn £25,000. So hardly a low wage
It's often a low wage when they don't work full time, or 1 doesn't work hence the comment as I read it and also the " " around "hard working" meaning less hours worked.
My vibe on the post anyway.
In my opinion looking after young children (less than school age) is a full time job, you may disagree, I'm not sure. And I think that the government should be encouraging one parent to stay at home and nurture their children rather than banging on about getting women back to work. Nurseries have their place but I think that we are over reliant on them and the government, in my opinion should provide a lot more support for hard working low income families in this way but unfortunately many families are not afforded that choice.0 -
Why have you assumed that your children aren't on a good income? They are. Neither are on a low wage all are hard workers.you really say the most silly things.
both of my children gained 10 GCSE's at C and above, they both also gained 4 A levels at C and above.
they are cpmpeting with the graduates that cant fond wprk.
so dont say that it is because they didnt work hard that they donty have the jobs that pay the high flying wages.
2 of my grandcholdren are on the gifted and talented programmes.
the 3rd is 13 months and talks as well as most2 year olds and has a vocabulary way above her age.
the 4th grandbaby6 sadly passed awat, but ive no doubt he would have been as intelligent and as wncouraged as the others.
that isnt down to earning potential.. that is down to genetics and good parenting.
neither of which are reliant on income
Why have you read the negative when you could easily have read the positive and said
I raised my children to get good grades and work hard. They do work hard, they raise their children without need for benefits, work full time and raise well adjusted and intelligent children despite working full time.
You may be exactly the type of person they were praising but you only saw the negative.Tomorrow is the most important thing in life0 -
In my opinion looking after young children (less than school age) is a full time job, you may disagree, I'm not sure. And I think that the government should be encouraging one parent to stay at home and nurture their children rather than banging on about getting women back to work. Nurseries have their place but I think that we are over reliant on them and the government, in my opinion should provide a lot more support for hard working low income families in this way but unfortunately many families are not afforded that choice.
The majority of families that are not afforded that choice are the so called middle earners. High earners can afford it, low earners are given help. Other than that I agree with you until they are older.
I cannot justify 24 hour a week work with teenage children which is what tax credits currently permit. They should both be looking for work or working FT each to be called "hard working"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life0
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