Need help thinking up an excuse for Santa

Spendless

gingin wrote: »

We have this debate on MSE every year, mum (the lying to kids part)- it's as traditional to MSE as turkey and tinsel is to me. Don't get offended - most of us have done it your way.

The naysayers usually get as good as they give i.e it turns into pages of heated banter

We do indeed.:D Strangely I've never seen a debate over whether it's lying to tell your kids that a virgin can get pregnant - assuming she was completely pure and there was no sexual contact.

iammumtoone

notanewuser wrote: »

Well you do now. DD is 3. If she wants to believe in Santa that's fine, but we will never tell her that its real (as its a lie). This may become a bit more complicated as she gets older, but I know many many families where the "magic" doesn't come from lies. At least 2 of her 4 closest peers aren't being told Santa is real either.

The story of the kindness of St Nicholas is more important to us than some lies about some commercial invention.

When you explain it that way, it does make a bit more sense. I have never told ds Santa is real, I have never actually said he exists I don't need to use those exact words as he never questions what I tell him, probably as above he knows not to ask if he exists as he doesn't want the magic to be ruined.

If and when he does actually ask the question "Does Santa actually exist/is he real?" at that time he is ready for the magic to end, he wants it to to hence why he would be asking. He is not at that stage yet otherwise he would have said something last night, so yes I will make up an excuse why the presents were there, I will make the magic last a bit longer for him as I believe that is what he wants.

notanewuser

Spendless wrote: »

We do indeed.:D Strangely I've never seen a debate over whether it's lying to tell your kids that a virgin can get pregnant - assuming she was completely pure and there was no sexual contact.

Atheist/scientific household here so we don't do that either!!

notanewuser

iammumtoone wrote: »

When you explain it that way, it does make a bit more sense. I have never told ds Santa is real, I have never actually said he exists I don't need to use those exact words as he never questions what I tell him, probably as above he knows not to ask if he exists as he doesn't want the magic to be ruined.

If and when he does actually ask the question "Does Santa actually exist/is he real?" at that time he is ready for the magic to end, he wants it to to hence why he would be asking. He is not at that stage yet otherwise he would have said something last night, so yes I will make up an excuse why the presents were there, I will make the magic last a bit longer for him as I believe that is what he wants.

But you stage a "visit" from Santa every year without telling him its all pretend? That's telling him its real by your actions.

We don't have Santa visit at all.

lostinrates

Spendless wrote: »

We do indeed.:D Strangely I've never seen a debate over whether it's lying to tell your kids that a virgin can get pregnant - assuming she was completely pure and there was no sexual contact.

The religion debate is frequent! More interestingly,most people tell their children they are beautiful, clever, special, wonderful. Etc.......when we are most of us fairly average to all but those who love us. Most people tell social lies ' I'm sorry I'm busy that night' rather than 'I wouldn't come if hell hounds bayed behind me' or 'it's a lovely colour'm about a new dress rather than 'but the cut is awful and its a size too small for you'.


I'm not a parent, I have no issue with either parenting choice tbh, but I think we all fudge the truth at times, and I think al, parents make mistakes. Its horrid to watch EITHER stance take stabs at each other.

quidsy

My 6 year old beleives that santa dfelivers presents to mums & dads, nannys etc early so they can help him wrap them as he is so busy & only gets to put one present per child in his sleigh on christmas night.

On a different note, you need to find a better hiding place.

quidsy

oh the holier than thous are out on this thread.

My son gladly beleives in tooth fairy, santa, elves & dragons. I will never tell him they don't exist until he decides it himself.

I'd rather he beleive in something that he eventually figures out is not real than have him lied to all through his life by religious institutions about the existance of god, jebus, virgin births & angels.

iammumtoone

notanewuser wrote: »

But you stage a "visit" from Santa every year without telling him its all pretend? That's telling him its real by your actions.

Yes I concede I do, do that, but a direct question as in "Is Santa real" then I wont lie.

fireyfirenze

iammumtoone wrote: »

Yes I concede I do, do that, but a direct question as in "Is Santa real" then I wont lie.

I wouldn't waste too much time defending yourself, the majority of parents do it your way. if I recall rightly on another thread notanewuser mentioned her child gets 1 or 2 presents for Christmas, something small like a jumper (please correct me if I'm wrong) so people obviously do it very differently from each other, which is fine of course.

neon_dannii

I believed until I was 10 years old! (I'm now 25) Santa brought the gifts, none of this Santa only brings the stocking/presents are from parents etc. I find it quite sad that some children stop believing from such a small age