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  • stir_crazy
    stir_crazy Posts: 1,441 Forumite
    edited 12 December 2013 at 7:43PM
    I'm saying that part of it involves a lie. It does. You can't deny that. The fat bloke in the red suit doesn't exist. Fact. You encourage your children to believe he does. Ergo you are lying to them.

    I'm not bothered one bit - lie to them all you like. But for some parents and some children that lie will affect the children when they find out.





    ;)



    I've used one mild swear word, but I've not shouted. I think you perhaps need to read what's there, not what isn't.

    At the end of the day, some of us don't feel the need to conform. I'm quite happy to find my own way rather than follow the herd.

    But also quite happy to criticize others who choose to "follow the herd"?
    :wall: :wall:

    What you choose to tell or not tell your children is up to you. OP has said that her DS believes in Santa and that she would like to keep it going. So it doesnt give you the right to tell her to do otherwise.
  • iammumtoone
    iammumtoone Posts: 6,377 Forumite
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    edited 12 December 2013 at 8:48PM
    At last, something we can agree on. DD can have whatever fantasy she likes (including Santa, should she wish). I'm just not choosing them for her.

    But my son is no different he is choosing to believe. Maybe he didn't the first year when Santa was introduced but at six I am sure he knows (or at least strongly suspects) he doesn't exist he chooses not to question it, hence why he didn't mention about the presents he found.

    Some of the people on here have said they still have older children who believe, again they are believing because they want to, deep down they know he doesn't exist but are choosing to keep the magic alive for themselves.
  • Nicki wrote: »
    This whole debate started because Not a New User...
    Thanks very much for this post...completely Off Topic but I've spent the last year wondering what an 'ewuser' was that one would want to be noted as 'not one'. :doh:
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  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    There are a couple of posters whose names I never read correctly...strange what the eye sees!!
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    stir_crazy wrote: »
    But also quite happy to criticize others who choose to "follow the herd"?

    I was criticising those that use Santa as a way to get their children to "be good".

    stir_crazy wrote: »
    What you choose to tell or not tell your children is up to you. OP has said that her DS believes in Santa and that she would like to keep it going. So it doesnt give you the right to tell her to do otherwise.

    I haven't told her - or anybody else - to do anything!
    Trying to be a man is a waste of a woman
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    poet123 wrote: »
    So, if after seeing Santa at Nursery she comes home saying all her little friends are excited about Santa coming and wondering if he will visit her what would you say to her?
    It's extremely unlikely to be honest - it's only part time and she's the oldest child there - most of the others are only just learning to talk, never mind explain the Santa concept.

    But to play along, if she did, I would say "I don't know, but I do know that Auntie **** and Uncle ***** are coming to see you." All thoughts of Santa would be instantly forgotten. ;)
    Trying to be a man is a waste of a woman
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    But my son is no different he is choosing to believe. Maybe he didn't the first year when Santa was introduced but at six I am sure he knows (or at least strongly suspects) he doesn't exist he chooses not to question it, hence why he didn't mention about the presents he found.

    Okay. Let me say it a slightly different way. YOU started the "tradition" before he was able to understand/conceptualise it. You gave him the impression that it was happening, so he's grown up knowing no different. A bit like taking children to church every week - they will believe because you're endorsing/encouraging/imposing it.

    That's very different to a 4/5/6 year old finding out about it outside the home and deciding that they want to believe in it.
    Trying to be a man is a waste of a woman
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    edited 12 December 2013 at 9:29PM
    It's extremely unlikely to be honest - it's only part time and she's the oldest child there - most of the others are only just learning to talk, never mind explain the Santa concept.

    But to play along, if she did, I would say "I don't know, but I do know that Auntie **** and Uncle ***** are coming to see you." All thoughts of Santa would be instantly forgotten. ;)

    And she will she be so easily diverted when she is older and it happens when she is in school? Or when she goes back after Christmas and they are all talking about what Santa brought?

    I think you are deluding yourself if you do not accept that although it is absolutely your call, she will notice and feel left out, even if she says nothing to you about it.
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    poet123 wrote: »
    And she will she be so easily diverted when she is older? And it happens when she is in school? Or when she goes back after Christmas and they are all talking about what Santa brought?

    There are plenty of households around here that don't do Santa. Close friends that don't do it haven't had any problems. My oddchildren are 8 and 6 and have had no problems whatsoever.

    In any case, I have said that if SHE decides she wants to believe, that's fine.

    poet123 wrote: »
    I think you are deluding yourself if you do not accept that although it is absolutely your call, she will notice and feel left out, even if she says nothing to you about it.

    Luckily the school we've chosen celebrates differences and the pastoral care is excellent. I'm 100% confident that we won't have these issues.

    I haven't been bullied into a 7-7 routine with DD. I wasn't bullied into giving her purees or putting her to sleep in a cot or buying her dolls and prams. We do what works for us, and she's absolutely thriving. I won't be bullied into Santa just because faceless forumites say I should. :rotfl::rotfl:
    Trying to be a man is a waste of a woman
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    There are plenty of households around here that don't do Santa. Close friends that don't do it haven't had any problems. My oddchildren are 8 and 6 and have had no problems whatsoever.

    In any case, I have said that if SHE decides she wants to believe, that's fine.




    Luckily the school we've chosen celebrates differences and the pastoral care is excellent. I'm 100% confident that we won't have these issues.

    I haven't been bullied into a 7-7 routine with DD. I wasn't bullied into giving her purees or putting her to sleep in a cot or buying her dolls and prams. We do what works for us, and she's absolutely thriving. I won't be bullied into Santa just because faceless forumites say I should. :rotfl::rotfl:

    Oddchildren?

    The proof of the pudding is twenty years down the line for every parent!! You have a way to go before you can pat yourself on the back I am afraid.;)
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