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Nice People Thread Number 10 -the official residence of Nice People
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neverdespairgirl wrote: »
Yes, but....
There's a very useful legal idea in criminal law about people being assumed to intend the probable and natural consequences of what they do.
So if you keep doing A, and it results in B, then you do intend B, really. Because you don't do anything to avoid it.
It's useful in a legal context because you can't really avoid it and still have a system of law. Just as the idea that ignorance is no defense is a useful legal fiction. But as a legal expert you know yourself that it's impossible to know every aspect of criminal law or every offense.
The reality is, I think, that people act in ways that produce outcomes they don't want all the time. I, for example, have eaten many packets of crisps that I shouldn't have. I've never wanted to be fat... but pickled onion crisps.“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
lostinrates wrote: »Why cannot I motivate myself to get ion the shower?
Sigh.
Anyone want to come with me?
I've had two showers today, already, but Michaels is usually game for a romp in the shower.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
lostinrates wrote: »Why cannot I motivate myself to get ion the shower?
Sigh.
Anyone want to come with me?
Found in rates would kill me.“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
Talking of showers, I usually use medicated shampoo or soap for washing my hair, but this afternoon I found this in the shower:
My hair feels so nice ....
No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »There's a very useful legal idea in criminal law about people being assumed to intend the probable and natural consequences of what they do.
So if you keep doing A, and it results in B, then you do intend B, really. Because you don't do anything to avoid it.
Legally, yes. Personally, it's more complicated, and intention is a lot more important. How many marriage breakups can you think of where people quite deliberately did things for no other purpose than to be vindictive and cause hurt and harm to the other partner. He simply never did that, and that is, of itself, praiseworthy, and he deserves some credit for it. However, I am under no illusions that it goes any significant way towards making up for his choices to cheat, and to leave etc.Sorry, on phone so can't selectively quote (easily). Lydia - I'm sure you wouldn't let me or anyone else say 'if they had an ounce of brain'. We can be sure that you have a fair few in your possession. Anyone can find reminders in an unhealthy relationship and not have noticed how unhealthy it had become until afterwards. However clever they are or are not.
You are right, of course - you and tomterm. I retract the comment and have now edited it.IIRC, he did not reserve this approach to life for you. How did his parishioners get on with him?
It's very unfortunate that he died as he did. There is so much unsaid/unclosed between you. I very much hope that, given the chance to reflect, he would have been able to say how sorry he was for all the harm he did to you.
His parishioners thought he was great - until he got himself sacked for misconduct. He was particularly good at funerals and other pastorally sensitive situations. He was brilliant at chairing meetings and getting people to pull together to get things done. He was an able public speaker. As I said, he shone in circumstances where it was clearly delineated who was supposed to be in charge of what.
And there wasn't really anything left unsaid. It had all been said long before the decree nisi. He was very sorry that leaving me caused me pain, and he tried hard, at some cost to himself, to mitigate that, but he couldn't bring himself to live with me any more. He wouldn't have changed his mind about that.
Whatever else is wrong with me, I'm not suffering from lack of closure. His death is a far more effective and complete closure than the decree absolute could ever have been. There is never a clean break from a living ex-partner with whom you have children. Not that I would ever have wanted the closure to come in this form, of course.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
Talking of showers, I usually use medicated shampoo or soap for washing my hair, but this afternoon I found this in the shower:
My hair feels so nice ....
We'll soon have you posting on threads about how to get expensive shampoo more cheaply.
Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
The ministry of inadvisable science experiments presents...
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26450494“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
lostinrates wrote: »I am afraid this is a flaw of mine too. I find it very difficult to repair broken fences too.
Plus I. ampompous.
Luckily I've asked for no funeral service so no one has to fill in gaps with the bits like ' she was really very fond of chickens'.
Pfft. Another one. I don't think you'd let any of the rest of us get away with saying that no-one would have anything to say about us!
On which note, I seem to be on a bit of a mission at the moment re-connecting with friends from past lives (well, the ones who I haven't completely offended anyway). I'm really bad at keeping in touch with people, but one by one I'm trying to pick up these friendships again. I've always known that whilst I'm independent and fine to get on with things myself, I feel much happier at least knowing that I've got connections to other people. For some reason I'm able to push myself through my social anxieties to actually do something about it at the moment so I'm trying to make the most of it.0 -
The ministry of inadvisable science experiments presents...
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26450494
I want more details. Two hydrogens of the usual H-1 type don't fuse to make helium (He-4) and if they did you wouldn't get neutrons being emitted. Neutrons don't have much effect on a normal Geiger counter either. So clearly he was doing something a little more complicated. The usual reaction in big machines involves deuterium (heavy hydrogen) and lithium. I'd better find out more about it quick, or they'll be asking me questions at school tomorrow and I won't know the answers. (TBH it smells a bit like the much trumpeted but mistaken "cold fusion" of a couple of decades ago, but I'll need to get more info.)Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
It's useful in a legal context because you can't really avoid it and still have a system of law. Just as the idea that ignorance is no defense is a useful legal fiction. But as a legal expert you know yourself that it's impossible to know every aspect of criminal law or every offense.
The reality is, I think, that people act in ways that produce outcomes they don't want all the time. I, for example, have eaten many packets of crisps that I shouldn't have. I've never wanted to be fat... but pickled onion crisps.
Yes, but so often you hear people saying things like, "I didn't mean to hurt you", if they've had an affair or whatever, and it doesn't mean much in that context, I reckon. What did he or she think would happen, exactly?We'll soon have you posting on threads about how to get expensive shampoo more cheaply.
I'm still using the mega-expensive shampoo and conditioner I bought a few weeks ago, and it's fantastic, I love it. My hair feels all lovely and it smells gorgeous, too....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0
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