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Nice People Thread Number 10 -the official residence of Nice People
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            PasturesNew wrote: »An idea to chuck in your design box .... I've seen old conversions in the past where they've lifted up the roof by 1' or so and put a complete glass layer all the way round, then dropped the roof back down. Gives light, but not obviously windows. 
 Very originally I wanted to put a long window all the way along front side.
 Ultimately I think I have been won over to the argument its not invest interests.
 It ruins any historical 'integrity' from road side, plus alerts to the fact its not 'just an out building' and impinges on security. It would only actually add to the down stairs, though that wouldn't be the worst thing, neither does it give the view to the living area. . Ad it would all need to be security grilled, so my idea of a nice modern thin bit of glass in the old building actually works out a bit of an expensive silly thing.   Better to spend the money on the 'back' from the road, or that buildings front IYSWIM, and just make the view better, turning the ugly little concrete lane into a beautiful mews like terrace garden/drive area.                        0 . Ad it would all need to be security grilled, so my idea of a nice modern thin bit of glass in the old building actually works out a bit of an expensive silly thing.   Better to spend the money on the 'back' from the road, or that buildings front IYSWIM, and just make the view better, turning the ugly little concrete lane into a beautiful mews like terrace garden/drive area.                        0
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            Welcome Maggie and thanks for the link. As others have said, do stick around. You either have to be a nice person or a person-who-can-manage-to-be-nice-on-this-thread. 
 Thank You for the welcome Lydia. I'm not a particularly nice person, regularly feel like chucking something heavy at the TV (esp during the News), but after around 17 years online at home I'm fairly accustomed to behaving on forums... I'm not a particularly nice person, regularly feel like chucking something heavy at the TV (esp during the News), but after around 17 years online at home I'm fairly accustomed to behaving on forums...  So hope I'll be acceptable! So hope I'll be acceptable! Dementia is what happens to the women in my family (well, the maternal side of it anyway) when they get old. I expect it will happen to me. Dementia is what happens to the women in my family (well, the maternal side of it anyway) when they get old. I expect it will happen to me.
 I kinda expect it will happen to me too (history on Mum's side - her Father and her younger brother too) - unless heart disease or stroke gets me first. Or aortic aneurism which is what took out my paternal Grandmother.I am so sorry you are going through it again with your MiL having seen both your parents through it. My dad's side of the family is mercifully free of it so far, and my in-laws seem to be OK so far too, although they have other health problems - my MiL has diabetes and all the usual stuff that goes along with that.
 Thanks. My Mum had Type 2 diabetes too - and cheated on her diet as she loved puddings so much. Prob didn't help with the dementia. I don't eat much sweet stuff, though still take sugar in coffee. But at only one cup a day I figure it prob don't count too much!0
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            vivatifosi wrote: »Anyone else now wondering what an Afghan meal tastes like?
 No need to wonder.
 I can definitively say it tastes like Goat.:)“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
 Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
 -- President John F. Kennedy”0
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            ukmaggie45 wrote: »I'm not a particularly nice person,
 If I can fake it long enough to post here, anybody can......:D“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
 Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
 -- President John F. Kennedy”0
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            HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »If I can fake it enough to post here, anybody can......:D
 N'ah , you're alright too.
 I'm positively vile.
 I was telling a friend of mine about the 'nice person thread' and she, who knows me well said, what the *{% are they doing letting you In to play with nice people? 
 Having manners and being nice are completely different. .  DH is nice.                        0 .  DH is nice.                        0
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            ukmaggie45 wrote: »I've been remiss in replying to welcomes! 
 Thank You PN, I'll be popping in when I can. Probably more often when the weather is carp! 
 Tend to read more than write on a couple of threads - severely limited in energy, plus have "stuff" needs dealing with fairly urgently - clear old home (we need to sell ASAP), and keep newish allotment sufficiently up to scratch that we don't get chucked off it for being too weedy! And it's getting to seed planting time now too! :eek: And it's getting to seed planting time now too! :eek:
 You were renovating a while back, weren't you? Is it the house you moved from that you're selling?Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
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            lostinrates wrote: »Windows are going to be hard in ours too. The good view side is not going to have any windows because its road frontage side. .  Aesthetically from the outside its the right decision, but its a shame for the inside of the property .  Aesthetically from the outside its the right decision, but its a shame for the inside of the property any view will be of a wall and asbestos roof. any view will be of a wall and asbestos roof. .  Shame when you think what is out the otherside really. .  Shame when you think what is out the otherside really.
 Conservation rooflights. With the orientation of the building, it really needs east and west windows in a loft for the sanity of anyone staying in it. Sometimes the aesthetics of the outside aren't as important as the feel inside?
 I'm not sure what the old coachhouse looked like, but I wonder if it's possible to get one and a half storeys out of it. Or does it need to have a proper upstairs at all? You could get quite a bit of use out of 60ft. You could have a 'bang your head then fall 12ft to the floor' mezzanine like the Brick Lane house in one part of it. in one part of it.
 Otherwise, put your stairs in the middle then you can have a sort of open plan either side and put private rooms at either end. Kind of gets you four rooms. Or two staircases if the upstairs serves more than one purpose. Too many options.Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
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            Doozergirl wrote: »Conservation rooflights. Sometimes the aesthetics of the outside aren't as important as the feel inside. With the orientation of the building, it really needs east and west windows in a loft for the sanity of anyone staying in it.
 I'm not sure what the old coachhouse looked like, but I wonder if it's possible to get one and a half storeys out of it. Or does it need to have a proper upstairs at all? You could get quite a bit of use out of 60ft. You could have a 'bang your head then fall 12ft to the floor' mezzanine like the Brick Lane house in one part of it. in one part of it.
 I really think aesthetics outside from front are quite important in this one, back could be Veluxe ful really. But I think road side should remain plain. Not least because of privacy from house new bedrooms and vice versa! . But mainly because a plain , uninterrupted roof is a pleasure.   (I'd love to afford to dump the tiles they left us and get stone to match the dairy on the road side but that will never happen . But mainly because a plain , uninterrupted roof is a pleasure.   (I'd love to afford to dump the tiles they left us and get stone to match the dairy on the road side but that will never happen ) )
 The old coach house looked like........a mess. That wall with a couple of crittal windows looking at the dairy, out of the breeze block end wall and timber fronted.
 Now, there is no way on earth that concrete block end wall is 'original':D. So I thought I could just timber clad what ever we do there.....(ho hum) so that the conservation officer won't notice a little more height.
 The pitch of the roof I think can loosely match the dairy....
 Frankly.....I'm prepared to push that one a bit in a way I didn't feel the need to over the house. After all. THEY want it re built.
 Also.....I'm not necessarily going to apply for it to be anything other than it was in first instance......so another good argument for keeping road side plain, And addressing any usage at second fix or a much later date.0
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            PasturesNew wrote: »An idea to chuck in your design box .... I've seen old conversions in the past where they've lifted up the roof by 1' or so and put a complete glass layer all the way round, then dropped the roof back down. Gives light, but not obviously windows.
 Clerestory windows, I believe they're called.
 lir will love, not because they are expensive, but they will be.
 EDIT: Didn't read the reply. I was right.Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
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            Doozergirl wrote: »Clerestory windows, I believe they're called.
 lir will love, not because they are expensive, but they will be.
 EDIT: Didn't read the reply. I was right.
 Teeheeeeee
 Isn't it great you know me so well.
 Its NOT because things are expensive. My cheese room window fittings ended up being the cheapest. Just the most hassle.
 (For those spared the details after a long search DH and I chose cheap fittings that were pretty had a sort of coating we didn't like and had to have them put in some sort of commercial over, because the guy who sold them to us reckoned his woodburner would do it and it didn't.
 We're now letting them get a bit manky and rusty and individual before we redo at them in hammerite in a colour of our choice. 0 0
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