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Ok, I have now had a response from Euro Car Parks after sending them the letter as recommended earlier in the thread.
Apparently they "won't discuss the matter any further" and basically I need to pay up!!
They have taken quite a bit of time to send this and I have heard nothing from Controlaccount!!!
What do I do next?0 -
No they don't have the ability to issue claims on behalf of anyone, control account would have to be solicitors is my understanding of this. Also as Euro have only issued 2 claims in the year 2012-2013 its actually laughable that they threaten this, considering they got RK details from the dvla almost 50k times in that period
And they moaning about admin costs :rotfl:When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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although the ideal is to take it to popla and win, once its past that stage due to being ignored or whatever then I think it should be dealt with in court and make the people alleging the debt prove their case or have it thrown out
yes its daunting but all this to-ing and fro-ing is bad for the health , "just get on with it and take me to court with an LBC and then court papers" is my thinking
that way you can offer ADR at the LBC stage, or even in the court papers , but then if it goes to court and if you can get somebody to help you as a lay rep (as has been seen recently in many court cases) , and armed with pranksters court guide etc then it may well be its thrown out before or at court due to no locus standi or some other legal point or points
the trouble is that all these debt recovery agents muddy the waters and cause anxiety and stress with their threats
in my world, if you threaten me, you better be sure of your case, and stop the talk and actually walk the walk, put the threats aside and actually do what you are threatening and let a judge sort it out , or back off if you dont have a case !
generally speaking, its say £100 to £150 being threatened, and possibly £100 to £200 if it goes to court and you lose, so for the extra few quid I would rather be in court and have my say, hopefully win and cost them money in the process , quite a few PPC have lost big time on this recently, I am sure with more to follow
so I would wait for an LBC from ECP and then battle them with help from here
if you have had an LBC etc then keep battling for popla ADR or wait for court papers , bearing in mind they can drag it our for up to 6 years
although they say that controlaccount works for them, they seem to forget that they work for sainsburys and that an LBC needs to come from a solicitor working for them or actually for or on behalf of Sainsburys , they also imply that controlaccount are not solicitors and I doubt that they have locus standi in bringing any claims
you were also advised on page one to complain to sainsburys and get this charge cancelled by the landowner, I see no sign of you doing that or their reply in 3 pages of this thread , yet its the simplest method of making it "go away"0 -
I have been into Sainsburys to speak with the Manager and had great difficulties in doing so!!
I keep trying!!0 -
Assuming Sainsbury's are unhelpful, then the next step is to write a letter with enough legal landmines in that they start panicking about taking further action.
Others will have the word but essentially you say that they are acting unreasonably in refusing to discuss the matter and you give them 3 options:
1) Cancelling the charge as you aren't paying and they surely don't want to increase their amin charges further.
2) Issue POPLA chooses for each incident so that the problem can be resolved by independent arbitration.
3) Stop harassment which is a criminal offence. If they want an enforceable claim, you demand that they prove it in court.
Use one of the standard paragraphs for charging for your time.0 -
agreed ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
complain directly to the CEO of sainsburys if the local manager doesnt do anything0 -
Hi Ian
Thanks for your advice, I would prefer not to go to court if I can help it but will if it becomes necessary!!
I am not sure what this means however, sorry this is all new for me.
Issue POPLA chooses for each incident so that the problem can be resolved by independent arbitration.
Would you be so kind as to advise??
Sorry!!!0 -
Typo - chooses = codes
(The post was probably made on a mobile device, perhaps using a swype keyboard, and the word selector picked chooses rather than codes).0 -
funkyfreakapotomus wrote: »Hi Ian
Thanks for your advice, I would prefer not to go to court if I can help it but will if it becomes necessary!!!
Look you are not listening to us, this will never go to court, euro are to chicken to even contemplate it, they have a track record of not going there, I can prove it
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/small_claims_from_bpa_aos_member_2#incoming-444525
2012-2013 - 2 claims , One a loss
They issued none beforehand, except where they were sued by a solicitor on behalf her brotherWhen posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
:beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:0 -
I am not sure what to do now or which letter to send and cannot find on the peipoo (spelling) thread I was following who had received the same letters as me.
As it has taken them so long to get back to me I have lost myself in the process0
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