Something has changed - seemingly for the better!

nottslass_2

Anoneemoose wrote: »

Does obesity kill and how, genuine question?

And who says I (or any larger persons) don't eat a varied and balanced diet. And yes, some people are (or should I say were) naturally a size 18. In parts of history it was more accepted to be large and curvaceous (Reubenesque). It is only very recently that it has become unnacceptable to be larger.

Sorry to C&P but this is from the cancer research uk website (not from some obscure source)
Obesity, body weight and cancer

It's thought that more than one in 20 cancers in the UK are linked to being overweight or obese.
Research has shown that many types of cancer are more common in people who are overweight or obese, including:

• breast cancer, in women after the menopause
• bowel cancer
• womb cancer
• oesophageal (food pipe) cancer
• pancreatic cancer
• kidney cancer
• gallbladder cancer

This list includes two of the most common types of cancer, and three of the hardest to treat.
The fat tissues in overweight people produce more hormones and growth factors than those in people of a healthy weight. High levels of some of these hormones, including oestrogen and insulin, can increase the risk of certain cancers.




Add to that Heart disease,high blood pressure,risk of stroke and type 2 diabetes.........

The way I look at it there is very little we can do about some things that affect our health and destiny but staying within a healthy weight range is one of them and I feel that I owe it to my family esp DS3 whom I had later in life to stay as fit and healthy as I can, for as long as I possibly can.


It may have once been fashionable to be curvaceous in Reubenesque time,but that was long before the medical knowledge we have today.

When I was clearing out my mums house we found her wedding dress from the 1950's - she wasn't exactly a waif and looking at her wedding photos was about average when comparing her to her peers but the waist on it was tiny and I can honestly say I don't know of anybody that small who'd fit in it today. Even the much celebrated curves of marilyn monro would equate to a modern day size 10.

Bella73

Abbymoo wrote: »

Seems to me some people should work more on IMPROVING their personalities and attitudes than their outward appearance

Being thin may, to some people, be more attractive, but if you're about much fun as a kidney infection you'll never be really happy, thigh gap or not.

OMG that made me laugh so much I nealy spat my tea all over the computer!!:rotfl:

As for original Op well done to you x

Anoneemoose

nottslass wrote: »

Sorry to C&P but this is from the cancer research uk website (not from some obscure source)
Obesity, body weight and cancer

It's thought that more than one in 20 cancers in the UK are linked to being overweight or obese.
Research has shown that many types of cancer are more common in people who are overweight or obese, including:

• breast cancer, in women after the menopause
• bowel cancer
• womb cancer
• oesophageal (food pipe) cancer
• pancreatic cancer
• kidney cancer
• gallbladder cancer

This list includes two of the most common types of cancer, and three of the hardest to treat.
The fat tissues in overweight people produce more hormones and growth factors than those in people of a healthy weight. High levels of some of these hormones, including oestrogen and insulin, can increase the risk of certain cancers.




Add to that Heart disease,high blood pressure,risk of stroke and type 2 diabetes.........

The way I look at it there is very little we can do about some things that affect our health and destiny but staying within a healthy weight range is one of them and I feel that I owe it to my family esp DS3 whom I had later in life to stay as fit and healthy as I can, for as long as I possibly can.


It may have once been fashionable to be curvaceous in Reubenesque time,but that was long before the medical knowledge we have today.

When I was clearing out my mums house we found her wedding dress from the 1950's - she wasn't exactly a waif and looking at her wedding photos was about average when comparing her to her peers but the waist on it was tiny and I can honestly say I don't know of anybody that small who'd fit in it today. Even the much celebrated curves of marilyn monro would equate to a modern day size 10.

Thank you for the info. To be fair though, it is the rogue hormones in my body (PCOS) that have contributed to my inability to lose weight. Like I said, I was diagnosed when in a so called healthy weight range and I have been unable to lose the weight I gained during pregnancies long term.

I am pleased you are able to do the things you do, I would love to be able to exercise. I used to swim a mile 5/6 days a week back in the day, because it made me feel good. Now if I swam a mile, I would be laid up for days due to payback.

Admittedly, if it didn't make me ill then I probably would be more active which may in turn lead to naturally shedding weight but as I have said, it is not possible at present.

I am also not saying that anyone out there who is a size 10 should go and get up to a size 16 or 18. What I will say though is that if there are people out there that are struggling to stay a size 10 and it is making them unhappy then they should let go a bit.

My OP was about the fact that I have accepted my lot for now. And as I said, just because I am a size 18 does not mean I am worthless or unattractive on unlovable and other people might feel better if they also realised this.

And for the record, I don't think a size 10 should be the sought after holy grail size either (unless of course you naturally settle that way). I did get to a size 10 once and I looked bloody awful. For me a size 12/14 has been when I have looked and felt my best. Maybe one day it will be that way again, maybe not but in the meantime, i am not going to make myself unhappy trying.

paulineb_2

Again, I'll point out that the OP has posted several threads on this forum saying that she has more than one health condition, including one that causes chronic pain and makes it really hard for her to exercise.


One person in particular who has posted on this thread doesn't quite seem to grasp that. When you hardly have the energy to get out of bed in the morning, you aren't going to be at the gym pumping iron and where did the OP say she had given up?


Shes made many posts lately about how tough shes been finding life and as soon as she makes a post saying shes feeling better up pops mr know it all saying thin is better.


Seriously, some (one person) people are missing a sensitivity chip and the ability to go back and read some other threads to get a fuller picture of what the OP has been through lately.


I hope you never end up sick or injured, youd probably want to be attached to a VAT of slim fast so you didn't put on half an ounce if you couldnt work out anymore.

paulineb_2

People are getting fatter and living more sedentary lives. But as Ive said before on this thread, genetics also play a part. I work out 4 days a week. I go to classes 4 days a week and I eat healthily. I have always struggled to lose weight. My mum is fairly active but shes been underweight most of her life and shes not as active as me.


For some people being slim is a lifelong struggle, for others it isn't. I have no desire to be a size 10. Im happy at a 12, happy at a 14.
Ive also had times where my BMI has been 28 or 29 but Ive been extremely fit, Ive run 10ks, half marathons, 5ks. But if the height weight charts are to be believed Im overweight and therefore doomed.


Id say Im a damn sight more healthy than someone who is a size 10 and who does hardly any exercise.

paulineb_2

Its actually great to be on a thread and told that you feel thin is beautiful, I see thin people who are nothing of the sort and fatter people who are.


You know, this thread was about someone who has been feeling pretty crap lately and is now feeling a lot better, instead of celebrating that, its turned into a how can you be happy at a size 18 type thread.


Well, perhaps now that the OP is feeling brighter, she'll be able to lose the weight she wants to and get to the size she wants to, whether that's a 12,14 or 16 and someone who is feeling more positive, something that should be applauded I think, because shes worked hard to try and overcome a good few issues that have been making her feel awful for quite some time.

paulineb_2

And its also very possible that someone can make massive improvements to their fitness, lower their body fat percentage and only lose around 7-10 pounds or less. Fitness isn't just a number on a scale. You'll get people who are very fit who show up as being obese on the BMI charts.

Anoneemoose

Thanks again Paulineb!

Your advice as always, is spot on! You have also given me 'home truths' previously but have still managed to do it in a supportive and constructive way! Some people just don't have the ability to do that and that is their problem.

Like I have said also, i am not advocating being 'unhealthy' or going out deliberately to get people to become obese; I was initially merely trying to thank people for helping me and to let them see how their support has affected me for the better. And if my post gives someone hope as it has done, then that is amazing too!

I am almost certain there will be times I will struggle in future however maybe now I will cope with them better and they won't get to me as much.

For once, I feel I am actually living my life and enjoying the things I do rather than constantly (and I mean constantly) thinking that everything would be better if I was 2 sizes smaller and in the process making me miserable.

paulineb_2

Anoneemoose wrote: »

Thanks again Paulineb!

Your advice as always, is spot on! You have also given me 'home truths' previously but have still managed to do it in a supportive and constructive way! Some people just don't have the ability to do that and that is their problem.

Like I have said also, i am not advocating being 'unhealthy' or going out deliberately to get people to become obese; I was initially merely trying to thank people for helping me and to let them see how their support has affected me for the better. And if my post gives someone hope as it has done, then that is amazing too!

I am almost certain there will be times I will struggle in future however maybe now I will cope with them better and they won't get to me as much.

For once, I feel I am actually living my life and enjoying the things I do rather than constantly (and I mean constantly) thinking that everything would be better if I was 2 sizes smaller and in the process making me miserable.

Yes I get that. And that's what I meant earlier, because so many people who want to lose weight think, if only I were ten pounds thinner, my life would be so much happier, well no, its generally ten pounds thinner with much the same stresses and that's what I meant about accepting yourself the way you are now.


As I said before, before I lost two stones plus which I have done since May, I said to myself, I accept myself the way I am right now and if the weight never comes off it never comes off and that somehow made it easier to lose. I wasn't under pressure and there have been weeks where Ive lost, gained, lost, gained. Of course I feel better in myself with the weight off, but if it had taken me two years to lose those two stones and not 6 months Id have been ok with that.


The reason I feel better isn't because I am thin, Im not thin, its because I needed to lose weight, for me. Not for people who have been queuing up all my life to tell me I was fat, when I was a size 12 and nothing of the sort.


Sometimes people can be too quick to bash people who really have struggled with their weight all their lives. And if you don't know what someones struggles have been that's when I think a bit of kindness goes a long way, because you don't know what its taken for someone to get to a point where they do accept themselves, whether that's a size 16 or a size 20.

paulineb_2

I remember being in a pub around ten years or so ago and seeing an ex boyfriend who had given me a very very hard time when we were together, I was around 9 stones, just over, but I have a curvy shape even when Im at my smallest, he must have been about 20 stones easily. Hes lost the weight now, hes probably back to being around 12-13 stones, but he put on weight, lots of it. I have no idea why.
But I bet at the time he was picking on me because he thought I was heavier than I should be, he never thought hed be seriously overweight himself.


And that's my point, you don't know whats going to happen to someone to make them put weight on, it could be illness, injury, depression, but if I mocked someone who was overweight Id stop and think, why am I doing it? Why am I making comments about whether someone is fat, slim or anything in between. Because for everyone who is just sitting eating themselves to death, theres someone who might be clinically depressed and using food as a support mechanism and that's what people need. Support. Not to be told, its just a matter of self control and step away from the big mac


And this year, I was ready to lose weight, 12 months ago, I wasn't.