Egypt

vanilla_twist

As someone mentioned Sharm is a manufactored resort for tourisum.

I was there in late january and the hotel I use was full to capacity with britsh holiday makers.
I travel alone, single white, blonde female. I like to walk about at night and have never feared for my safety, mind you I dont partcipate in the Hard Rocks women drink free after midnight. I did call in for a drink about 11pm and it was definately egyption men looking for white women.

Yes every taxi driver wants to be your friend, I just take their number politely and do not give mine.
The staff working in the big hotels are doing it for the money. Shame the nice war vet who has now qualified as a social worker has to deliver peoples bags to their rooms. I am sure his professional expertise could be used to better effect.

When I wander out of resort everyone wants to talk or sell but after a firm no, they just want to chat.
I know how to keep myself safe travelling alone as I have done all over the world.
Be polite and stay sober if off your complex.
I stay at the Royal Abatros Moderna which is a real gem. Great sevice and remembered when the you return.
looking for my next break now
V x

Mr_Wang

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No, I copied and pasted from the FCO website as you omitted the rather important details about 23 sexual assaults in 2012, some against minors and carried out on hotel property. All rather relevant information to anyone planning a holiday in Eygpt wouldn't you think ? Unfortunatley more up-to-date figures are not yet available but I'd be surprised if they didn't reflect a worsening situation in Egypt.

As for the areas you claim are safe it would appear that many tourists, not just those from the UK, prefer to use their instinct which tells them they are not.

But if you visit all these places regularly I'd be interested to hear of your first-hand knowledge.

So your advice has now gone from using the FCO to using instinct?

My first hand knowledge of Egypt can be found here:

http://thesummerholidayofalifetime.blogspot.co.uk/

But for those wondering what 'real' Egyptians are like, the following photograph was taken in Luxor whilst riots took over Cairo some 300 miles away.



As you can see by this short video clip, tourists were major targets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HmFfSgST5U&list=UUOAk2SIFHMoeLKs4_WFc-kw

FYI I don't like Sharm El Sheik as it is manufactured and seriously overpriced, and when we were there we ended bailing up the road to Dahab. A place I fell in love with and still proclaim to be the best place in the whole of the country.

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Mr_Wang wrote: »

So your advice has now gone from using the FCO to using instinct?

My first hand knowledge of Egypt can be found here:

http://thesummerholidayofalifetime.blogspot.co.uk/

But for those wondering what 'real' Egyptians are like, the following photograph was taken in Luxor whilst riots took over Cairo some 300 miles away.



As you can see by this short video clip, tourists were major targets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HmFfSgST5U&list=UUOAk2SIFHMoeLKs4_WFc-kw

FYI I don't like Sharm El Sheik as it is manufactured and seriously overpriced, and when we were there we ended bailing up the road to Dahab. A place I fell in love with and still proclaim to be the best place in the whole of the country.

Given the choice between expert intelligence from British diplomats living and working permanently in Egypt and someone who has paid a single visit to Egypt on a family jolly I think I know which I'd choose.

Especially using " instinct " from years spent working on the ground in Egypt and the Middle East in the engineering industry.

If you think holidaying in Egypt in 2014 doesn't carry with it significant risk you're a fool and anyone reading this thread considering such a trip should be aware of that risk.

Mr_Wang

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Given the choice between expert intelligence from British diplomats living and working permanently in Egypt and someone who has paid a single visit to Egypt on a family jolly I think I know which I'd choose.

Especially using " instinct " from years spent working on the ground in Egypt and the Middle East in the engineering industry.

If you think holidaying in Egypt in 2014 doesn't carry with it significant risk you're a fool and anyone reading this thread considering such a trip should be aware of that risk.

*IT IS FCO ADVICE*

Are you missing that completely? Or just too bigoted and ignorant to accept it.

And I believe that holidaying anywhere in 2014 carries risk. The difference between you and I is that you target hate at Arab countries whereas I don't.
Going by your mantra you wouldn't venture out of your bigoted little village in Wales. Since there is risk even in the UK.

I say again, and finally - Seek advice from the FCO prior to travel, and, currently the FCO advises that travel to most of Egypt is safe.

Whether or not that advice fits your agenda is your business, but frankly going by your 'instincts' makes you and anyone who listens to you the fool.

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Mr_Wang wrote: »

*IT IS FCO ADVICE*

Are you missing that completely? Or just too bigoted and ignorant to accept it.

And I believe that holidaying anywhere in 2014 carries risk. The difference between you and I is that you target hate at Arab countries whereas I don't.
Going by your mantra you wouldn't venture out of your bigoted little village in Wales. Since there is risk even in the UK.

I say again, and finally - Seek advice from the FCO prior to travel, and, currently the FCO advises that travel to most of Egypt is safe.

Whether or not that advice fits your agenda is your business, but frankly going by your 'instincts' makes you and anyone who listens to you the fool.

I don't live in Wales. I live in Ireland.Two different countries.
Why am I not surprised at this basic error ?

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Welcome to Egypt.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2589105/Shocking-reaction-blonde-woman-caught-video-crowds-men-swarm-walks-Cairo-university-campus.html

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Sexual harrassment of women is a very real threat in Egypt and one that any tourists considering a holiday there should bear in mind.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/07/20137617131125427.html

It's a familiar pattern seen elsewhere, even in supposedly westernised Muslim countries such as Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Turkey

These comments are in no way intended to dissuade people from holidaying in these countries but to remind them that things we treat as abhorrent, such as misogyny and the ill-treatment of women, are far less so in these countries.

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Authorities in Egypt have revoked the licences of two hotels in Sharm El Sheikh – including the five-star Hilton Sharks Bay Resort – following the alleged rape of a British tourist

Meanwhile, in a separate incident, a Sharm El Sheikh policeman was yesterday charged with attempted rape after allegedly entering the hotel room of a Russian tourist.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/10723726/Sharm-hotels-shut-over-alleged-rape-of-Briton.html

mick_vandick

you omitted the rather important details about 23 sexual assaults in 2012, some against minors and carried out on hotel property

There were 39 in Marmaris, Turkey, in the same year. Maybe you would like to start scaremongering people away from this holiday destination too?

As for the areas you claim are safe it would appear that many tourists, not just those from the UK, prefer to use their instinct which tells them they are not

Wrong. Numbers are obviously down from the countries that have stopped travel but for those still allowed there are good numbers of travellers in resort.

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mick_vandick wrote: »

There were 39 in Marmaris, Turkey, in the same year. Maybe you would like to start scaremongering people away from this holiday destination too?

Your figures back up my post a short while ago warning of sexual harrassment of women in Turkey as well as Egypt.Figures for,say,Benidorm would be far less than that.


Wrong. Numbers are obviously down from the countries that have stopped travel but for those still allowed there are good numbers of travellers in resort.

Unfortunately reports from the holiday resorts of empty hotels and restaurants do not appear to back up your assertion.
There is a very good reason why a number of European countries have advised their citizens against travel.