35 hours a week for Jobsearch, not possible?

AP007

annie123 wrote: »

If you're under 35 then yes 99% I've found can use computers but over that as they weren't used in schools then, no not everyone can, or indeed wants to learn I've discovered over the years.

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I am 44 and we have computers at school and I can use one and so can my 46 year old sister

The jobs we have had since leaving school have all used computers. Its more about type of job held in the past than age of person and if have had the need to have one at home or not.

goonarmy

annie123 wrote: »

If you're under 35 then yes 99% I've found can use computers but over that as they weren't used in schools then, no not everyone can, or indeed wants to learn I've discovered over the years.

You can still send a formal business letter via a speculative email application.
CV attached, formal covering letter attached and in the body of the email, a brief 'Dear Sirs please find attached my CV and covering letter that I hope you will find of interest.
Should you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact me' type thing.

Thats too much to read(attatchments that is, not the post). Make the cover letter the email. Its a standard business practice to send formal emails now. And recruitment bods wont spend very long at all looking through attachments.

iammumtoone

AP007 wrote: »

I am 44 and we have computers at school and I can use one and so can my 46 year old sister

The jobs we have had since leaving school have all used computers. Its more about type of job held in the past than age of person and if have had the need to have one at home or not.

I can't remember using computers at school and I am younger than you. I never used email until I started work. You are right though it should be very obvious from my employment history that I can use email. But I have learnt I should never assume anything especially when it come to what a prospective employer needs to know.

AP007

iammumtoone wrote: »

I can't remember using computers at school and I am younger than you. I never used email until I started work. You are right though it should be very obvious from my employment history that I can use email. But I have learnt I should never assume anything especially when it come to what a prospective employer needs to know.

Yeah computers as in computer studies and computer programming. They were computers

About job held etc I meant more about people I have seen when I was on the Work Programme who were just told 'set up an email address' and then sat there for an hour just looking at the screen as they had no idea how to use a PC.

iammumtoone

goonarmy wrote: »

Thats too much to read(attatchments that is, not the post). Make the cover letter the email. Its a standard business practice to send formal emails now. And recruitment bods wont spend very long at all looking through attachments.

Oh gosh, I have been out of the workplace for far too long! When you say formal email, I take it you mean addressed Dear Mr XX and signed Yours Sincerely? When I worked emails were only normally sent when you already had a working relationship with the recipient so used more informal language.

goonarmy

iammumtoone wrote: »

Oh gosh, I have been out of the workplace for far too long! When you say formal email, I take it you mean addressed Dear Mr XX and signed Yours Sincerely? When I worked emails were only normally sent when you already had a working relationship with the recipient so used more informal language.

Exactly that. Ive confirmed contracts etc using my email and have a standardised company format for my emails. I would say its my main communication tool.

donnajunkie

BillJones wrote: »

Er, yes, I just said that I did.

You've basically just accused me of lying now, so I hope that you'll understand if I don't offer you any advice any longer.

There are plenty of people with better manners who I'd prefer to help into a job ahead of you, sorry.

no, wasnt accusing you of lying. i just think doing that is foolish.

sensibleadvice

donnajunkie wrote: »

no, wasnt accusing you of lying. i just think doing that is foolish.

Why do you think it's foolish for an employer to provide an email address to a keen jobseeker?

iAMaLONDONER

AP007 wrote: »

You are talking about the sites you use to search jobs, yes?

That is not the only way you apply or look for work

I look at company websites, I try to network on LinkedIn. I also take sections of a map on Google, zoom in and you see companies showing up. I click on the icons to see who they are and look at their sites on the careers pages.

You may never know what you find there. On some you can set up alerts for jobs to be sent to you and if no job advertised or no alert function I try to find a way to email a cover letter and CV to the HR team telling them why I am interested in their company and what skills I have etc asking them to consider me for anything that they may have now or in the future.

I have profiles on Job and Talent, LinkedIn and Gumtree that I update weekly and all other sites I use for job searching (48 sites) I try to update a CV there or my profile once every two weeks.

I also look at things relating to the industry I have the most experience in and that's hospitality. So I look here for example http://www.bighospitality.co.uk/ I look at the movers (people who are leaving so and so and going to another company), I look at new openings and find their sites and look for jobs that way. I have followed a number of chefs on Twitter and sites like https://twitter.com/CatererNews and https://twitter.com/BigHospitality to name but a few.

If I have actual application forms to fill in I download all the relevant documentation into a file with the company name on it. Take a note of the closing date and set aside a half day to fill it all in and maybe when some things need more work like one I am doing online where they are 23 questions on the supporting statement I do a few a day as they want 200 words at least for each example. All this takes time.

I could go on..........oh no please don't :rotfl:

I genuinely hope you find your dream job very soon!

iAMaLONDONER

red_devil wrote: »

Its not i disagree china sells itself well britain should do the same, get it on a more even keel.

So even lower wages in Britain to compete with China's low wages?