35 hours a week for Jobsearch, not possible?

donnajunkie

BillJones wrote: »

That's really weird. If someone calls up that sounds like a good candidate then I want them to be able to contact me. Why would I not?

You seem to have very strange ideas about the world of work, relative to mine, we must have worked in very different environments, I think.

no, its just a personal preference. i wouldnt give my private email out to a stranger over the phone. i take the security of my private email address seriously.

donnajunkie

BillJones wrote: »

What do you think that they are going to do with it? Do you imagine that people are calling up employers, with enough knowledge about them to give a good job pitch, then collecting email addresses, one at a time, to sell to Nigerian scammers?

For one thing, if someone is qualified to work for me then they are listed on Bloomberg, and I can check them out while on the phone. Even if they were not, though,there is nothing wrong with helping someone out. I want good staff, they are hard to find. Putting obstacles in their way is not a good idea.

what makes you think that everyone who wants to send a spec email to you is going to do the whole elevator pitch thing? we are also talking generally here and we dont know much about your business. so your bloomberg point is poinless when we are talking generally.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

no, its just a personal preference. i wouldnt give my private email out to a stranger over the phone. i take the security of my private email address seriously.

A business email is not that private is it?

sensibleadvice

donnajunkie wrote: »

the business address and phone number is different to your private email. anyway spending money on a phone call to enable you to apply for free via email is odd. you might as well just apply by post.

They didn't say it was their private email, they said their email is not published anywhere. Strange as it may seem to you, many employers emails aren't published. Applications and the like may go to group email, HR etc so if an employer offers up an unpublished email there a good chance they have some influence either because they do the recruitment or can pass on to the relevant person department with a covering comment etc. Either way, if an applicant impresses enough to be of interest it's a good bet they've bumped themselves significantly further along the selection process.

ETA speaking to someone prior to applying can create much more interest to the employer than another generic CV. The conversation could reveal key info about a job allowing the CV to be tailored to match and rapport to be built. Many jobs aren't even advertised or mat be possibility of a job if/when the right person comes along. Once the CV has been sent following up may quickly lead to interview and job for the taking. All for the small cost of a call.

sensibleadvice

donnajunkie wrote: »

no, its just a personal preference. i wouldnt give my private email out to a stranger over the phone. i take the security of my private email address seriously.

What about an stranger who says they are an employer and are contacting you because they're interested in your skills and could they email you a job spec that you're well matched to?

annie123

This thread has gone way off the original post.

sensibleadvice

donnajunkie wrote: »

what makes you think that everyone who wants to send a spec email to you is going to do the whole elevator pitch thing? we are also talking generally here and we dont know much about your business. so your bloomberg point is poinless when we are talking generally.

You have to set yourself apart from the field to be successful with applications. What makes you think sending tens or hundreds of generic CVs will create more success than a few very well targeted ones where the recruiter's attention and interest has already been gained?

sensibleadvice

annie123 wrote: »

This thread has gone way off the original post.

Do you not consider contacting employers, tailoring CVs etc job searching? I do and therefore quite possible to search for 35 hours per week. By doing so, unless theres something untoward wouldn't be too many weeks before job searching wasn't needed at all.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

A business email is not that private is it?

yes and they are usually widely available anyway. if someone doesnt make the email widely available theres usually a reason for that.

donnajunkie

sensibleadvice wrote: »

Do you not consider contacting employers, tailoring CVs etc job searching? I do and therefore quite possible to search for 35 hours per week. By doing so, unless theres something untoward wouldn't be too many weeks before job searching wasn't needed at all.

now its back about what it is supposed to be about i will say this is not how it works with the jobcentre. doing it that way would result in not enough done as far as they are concerned. right or wrong you have to do as they ask or face sanction.