Buyer Beware, They are back again, eBay sellers selling Amazon

plumface

campdave wrote: »

Fell free to call me a hypocrite.

Hypocrite.

Obviously_the_best

Here's the facts.

It breaks no laws.
The buyer gets exactly what they paid for.

It is not a scam, it is not a breach of trust. The seller has simply saved the buyer the effort of checking Amazon as well, and therefore has provided a valuable service.

campdave, for all you know every seller you've ever bought from may have bought that item from Amazon before re-packaging it and selling it to you. Your argument is therefore null and void.

I'm here all week people.

RFW

unusual_George wrote: »

well, most online buyer would do well by doing a bit of searching online before buying. Most dodgy sellers play on this impatience or laziness of the buyer. Furthermore Amazon and eBay are not the only platforms out there, especially if you're trying to not get ripped off and want to get a good service. I find that smaller but well reviewed websites are much reliable, at least you know who you are dealing with. Just make sure you vet them first i.e phone number visible on website? call them up, are they contactable by email, they accept Paypal or other secure payment method, and most importantly try contacting them first to see their response time. This is usually an indication of what type of company you are dealing with.... One of my favorite sites at the moment is unusualspam website.

That was a lot of trouble to just post Spam for your own website.
I'll agree it pays to shop around though. Your banana umbrella is £14.99 plus postage, Amazon seller £9.99 including postage, Ebay seller £6.50 including postage.

GabbaGabbaHey

ballisticbrian wrote: »

So let's get this straight; we're on a consumer site designed to help buyers and you blame the buyers of this operation (if we can call it that) stating that they are the fools? Can you not see that the seller does not provide a service of any value whatsoever?

I paid 20p for a tin of Baked Beans at Tescos. I later found that I could have bought those same beans from Asda for 19p.

By your argument, it's Tesco's fault for being rip off merchants and scam artists, rather than my own fault for not researching the price before I bought my beans.

What a very strange world you live in.

samsmoot

If I win this ebay item can I dropship it via the local craigslist?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREE-LOCAL-PICK-UP-NO-SHIPPING-POSITIVE-CATFISH-DEAD-READY-FOR-COOKING-/261319354293?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd7d8e7b5

ballisticbrian

If you stick a hundred customers of theirs in a room and tell them how their eBay order was processed by another site and ask them how many feel "ripped off", I think 99 hands would go up.

Those of you business people who think it is a legitimate business model are splitting hairs with the words and semantics, saying technically it's not a rip off.

Blaming the customer for their folly is the starting point of a criminal mind as they say.

The point I am making is it is a scam in the same sense as the businesses you see on Watchdog, businesses which make the directors rich, declare bankruptcy, the stock seems to disappear to a similar company who the director then becomes the owner of. And all the time this is happening, some of you guys would be saying, "oh but he hasn't broken any laws has he? It's all fair game and perfectly legit."

But as I've pointed out, operations like this may well be breaking laws and definitely breaking confidence of their buyers and the sites they operate on, and if I've touched a few raw nerves here, I dread to think what operations you may involved with.

ballisticbrian

GabbaGabbaHey I paid 20p for a tin of Baked Beans at Tescos. I later found that I could have bought those same beans from Asda for 19p.

By your argument, it's Tesco's fault for being rip off merchants and scam artists, rather than my own fault for not researching the price before I bought my beans.

What a very strange world you live in.

What a very strange post. I don't think you've read this thread at all. Maybe go back and start again.

This is the problem with just posting without reading anything.

ballisticbrian

Here's the facts.

It breaks no laws.
The buyer gets exactly what they paid for.

It is not a scam, it is not a breach of trust. The seller has simply saved the buyer the effort of checking Amazon as well, and therefore has provided a valuable service.

Unfortunately most of those facts aren't correct. That's a bit of a problem when posting... facts.

So from all of your wisdom, all I've really gleaned is the fact that you personally would be totally happy buying your vitamins and minerals and health supplements from this person, knowing that your stuff will come, not from them, but from a completely random seller of which you haven't had the opportunity to choose and could have any type of feedback or customer service rankings you don't know, just some random seller.

plumface

ballisticbrian wrote: »

If you stick a hundred customers of theirs in a room and tell them how their eBay order was processed by another site and ask them how many feel "ripped off", I think 99 hands would go up.
Based on what and why would they feel ripped off?

Those of you business people who think it is a legitimate business model are splitting hairs with the words and semantics, saying technically it's not a rip off.
It is not a rip off, and after countless attempts you still cannot explain why it is.

Blaming the customer for their folly is the starting point of a criminal mind as they say.
Yet another stupid comment,whose fault was it that an item was bought for more than than needed to be paid?

The point I am making is it is a scam in the same sense as the businesses you see on Watchdog, businesses which make the directors rich, declare bankruptcy, the stock seems to disappear to a similar company who the director then becomes the owner of. And all the time this is happening, some of you guys would be saying, "oh but he hasn't broken any laws has he? It's all fair game and perfectly legit."
You are making yourself look very silly now, the above is illegal but sometimes hard to prove.
This 'operation' (your own words) is nothing like your silly comparison.

But as I've pointed out, operations like thismay well be breaking laws and definitely breaking confidence of their buyers and the sites they operate on, and if I've touched a few raw nerves here, I dread to think what operations you may involved with.

Before you said it WAS breaking a few laws, now it "maybe" breaking laws. Fact is no laws are being broken.
How does this break the confidence of a buyer?
You probably, and without knowing, bought items from a dropshipper before, have you been ripped off, scammed or had your confidence broken?
Still no reply to:-
Why is it a rip off?
Why is it a scam?

plumface

ballisticbrian wrote: »

What a very strange post. I don't think you've read this thread at all. Maybe go back and start again.

This is the problem with just posting without reading anything.

It is the same analogy. And the poster has obviously read the original post.
You (and the OP) are ONLY complaining because you paid more than you needed to because you are unable to do any research. Do not complain after the event.
You 2 (and it appears only you 2) are the only ones to be complaining about this sales method. The vast majority appear to feel the opposite to yourselves. Perhaps you should stop buying online or even turn off your PC for good, you obviously cannot use it properly.:D