EMA - small rant

milkydrink

zoezoe wrote: »

My partner and I have two very young boys and we desperately want to move back to Plymouth where all my family are. We have no family in surrey at all and with two babies really need family support.

To be fair, first you said you needed them, then you said after they needed you.
& you have edited out a whole load about sick Grandparents & parents that you had just mentioned!!!

zoezoe wrote: »

My mother is ill and I am very much needed back at home.

Right, I'm assuming this is your own house you are "renting" to her, as she is your 16 year old daughter (& as such still dependent on you), do you have to charge her rent???
If you can afford to buy 2 houses at one time, then surely you can afford to support your daughter financially?

My daughter didn't get the EMA either (she's just turned 20), them's the breaks as they say.

If you don't leave her in this house you own in Surrey, but sell it, she will have no choice but to go with you.

zoezoe_3

my mistake

milkydrink

zoezoe wrote: »

its none of anybody's business and not relevant.

You are a high income family & you are looking for a way for the tax payer to support YOUR 16 year old daughter.

I think this is the business of EVERY taxpayer & relevant.

Some of this public money you are trying to procure for your daughter you then wish to take off her as rent, so you want us to support her to support you.

zoezoe_3

my mistake

milkydrink

zoezoe wrote: »

I called up to see if she could get an EMA
She would have been left with about £180 after bills and rent if she had got got the EMA, obviously without the EMA she wont be able to do this.
The question is, why is EMA paid to students who live at home and work and not to students who live away from home and work. I would have thought students in teh later category would be more deserving

zoezoe wrote: »

I feel that the whole EMA thing it totally wrong. I dont believe that any 16 year old should get a £30 a week payout just because their parents are on low income. My personal opinion is that a 16 year old should get a jub to pay for expenses when going to college
I think the EMA is a terribly bad idea. Any 16 year old should get a job to earn £30 a week and not just get it handed to them..

So it was a good system until you found out your daughter wasn't entitled to it, then if you can't get it, its a bad one:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

seven-day-weekend

I personally find the scenario of this 16-year-old living on £300 pcm to be totally unrealistic, with or without the EMA.

I just don't think she will have enough money.

I hope you are able to sort it out somehow. Is it possible for her to have all-inclusive lodgings anywhere? This may work better as her wages would cover her rent and everything else.

Oldernotwiser

zoezoe wrote: »

I think the EMA is a terribly bad idea. Any 16 year old should get a job to earn £30 a week and not just get it handed to them.

EMAs are very tightly monitored and students lose money if they do not attend and get bonuses for excellent attendance. This is a really good incentive for young people from poorer families to continue their education and is to be applauded.

Whilst I think that 16 year olds should normally have part time jobs to pay for extra pocket money, clothes etc. I certainly don't think that they should have to work to pay for college expenses, as you think. The educational and living expenses of a child of 16 are the parents' responsibility and can't be ignored just because there are younger children in the family.

oliverp_2

zoezoe wrote: »

:money:

No not at all. I simply wondered why a 16 year old who does not live at home would be peanalised for working when a 16 year old living at home can work and get the EMA.

I feel that the whole EMA thing it totally wrong. I dont believe that any 16 year old should get a £30 a week payout just because their parents are on low income. My personal opinion is that a 16 year old should get a jub to pay for expenses when going to college, and just because I have a so called high income (high mortgage and high childcare expensis) I cannot affort to give my daughter £30 a week.

I see no reason why a 16 year old living away from home should only get help if they receive IS. That is encouraging people not to work, which is the topic I was actually hoping to discuss as mentioned in my opening post.

I think the EMA is a terribly bad idea. Any 16 year old should get a job to earn £30 a week and not just get it handed to them.

Overall I think EMA is a crap system but to think that any 16 year old can get a part time job to earn £30 a week is silly - part time jobs are seriously hard to come by.

oliverp_2

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

EMAs are very tightly monitored and students lose money if they do not attend and get bonuses for excellent attendance. This is a really good incentive for young people from poorer families to continue their education and is to be applauded.
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Hmm...student lives with his single parent with income less than £30k. The other parent still very much in contact with student, owns a large company and hands out money to student whenever. Student gets full EMA payment

Student lives with married parents on slightly above £30k income. Family works to support student. Student gets no EMA payment.

I don't call that tightly monitored.

diesel9181

im very glad my mum wasnt anything like you! just because you reach the age of 16 doesnt mean you no longer need the support of your parents. oh well only 14 years and you can ditch the boys and you can maybe emmigrate!!