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"There is no point in getting married if you're not having kids"
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Of course you should get married if you want to! I've never personally heard anyone say this but work with a lady who has been married for 5 years and does not want kids. She said even her own mother said this to her, that she would change her mind and was only saying she didn't want kids to be 'different' :eek:0
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MrSmartprice wrote: »Marriage is nothing to do with having children. It is also nothing to do with religion.
In your opinion. An opinion not shared by the millions of others who regard marriage as a sacred institution.
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So my son and his lovely wife, who are unable to have children, what happens to them now? Do they have to get divorced? Grrrr!! x0
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Actually, I think a lot of strain is put on relationships and children both when its forgotten that children are pivotal in families but NOT part of marriages!
Childless, married, often asked if we are having children but never Been told there is 'no point ' in us being married. How odd!0 -
Never heard of that either, although MIL has been pressing for grandchildren from the minute we were married. OH and I have been married 2 years and I'm in my mid 30s, he in early 40s, no kids and none planned yet although we are not saying never.0
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Gloomendoom wrote: »In your opinion. An opinion not shared by the millions of others who regard marriage as a sacred institution..
No, not an opinion, a statement of fact, I'm afraid.
Marriage is a legal institution. There is only one status of marriage, you are either married or you are not, and that status is down to the law, not any religious body.
Some people choose to involve a religious aspect to their weddings, but it has no relevance in law. And if you marry in a register office there is no religious reference at all, it is expressly forbidden.0 -
This always comes from parents along with "why don't you want kids?"
Why DO you want kids? I say back. It sometimes offends but they shouldn't ask personal questions or think that we all want the same things. "What lingerie does your partner wear" is another personal question you can ask to shut them up!0 -
MrSmartprice wrote: »No, not an opinion, a statement of fact, I'm afraid.
Marriage is a legal institution. There is only one status of marriage, you are either married or you are not, and that status is down to the law, not any religious body.
You are wrong, I am afraid. It is perfectly possible to be married in the eyes of God without being married in the eyes of the State.
I have several friends and relatives who were married in religious ceremonies previous to, and quite separate from, their civil marriages. To them the religious ceremony was the more important. The civil ceremony was just a 'box ticking' exercise necessary to satisfy the legal requirements of the state. Without the religious ceremony, the couple would not have been recognised as being married within their communities, nor would the couples themselves have regarded themselves as married, regardless of their legal status.0 -
MrSmartprice wrote: »Marriage is nothing to do with having children. It is also nothing to do with religion. But most importantly, it is nothing to do with anybody else!:)
Whilst I agree with the spirit of your post, as a legal contract it does have a role within society as a whole.0 -
MrSmartprice wrote: »No, not an opinion, a statement of fact, I'm afraid.
Marriage is a legal institution. There is only one status of marriage, you are either married or you are not, and that status is down to the law, not any religious body.
Some people choose to involve a religious aspect to their weddings, but it has no relevance in law. And if you marry in a register office there is no religious reference at all, it is expressly forbidden.
Sadly off the mark there, the legal aspect of marriage only appeared to solemnise the religious aspect as society was being organised in a lawful way. Now whether which aspect has more calling power in society today I am not disputing, but just wanted to straighten your 'facts'.
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