Facing dismissal because of a mistake

yvonne13_2

dshart wrote: »

One point in the OP's defence that shows that the AM knew that they planned to pay it back is the fact there are two receipts.

Why did the AM get a separate receipt for the OP's package?

If the OP had planned to use petty cash for their own parcel, surely it would have been easier to have all the mail together and hide it on one receipt.

It does not get round the fact that procedures were breached but it does show that the OP probably did intend to pay it back and more importantly that the AM was aware of this fact.

We don't know if they did as the OP hasn't said, unless I missed it.

dshart

monty-doggy wrote: »

A petty out was done for £30 then the change was paid back in with both the receipts, which means mine was one of those receipts. So that is like an IOU. And I told him I would pay it back, he told me not to bother and I said I'm not like that, I'd never use company money to pay my post. I said those exact words.
Except he is now suffering from selective memory.

There was two receipts according to post #124

monty-doggy

Yes there was 2 receipts. The parcel was big. Another reason i was stressed. It contained clothes belonging to my uncle. He lived with us for three years tattling terminal cancer. We lost him Xmas last year. I was sending the clothes to be made into a keepsake bear for my mum as an Xmas gift.

To clarify, the till will always balance as if you do petty cash out it deducts expected cash, if u do petty in it adds it to expected. Cash.

The can check every expense I've ever done, it's prob once a week for a letter to head office and a bottle of milk. All the receipts are there and all are witnessed.

wiogs

Sorry if I missed this how many days was it before you paid back the company money?

Although the stress you are under has been caused by the working environment and personal issues remember that other staff work with a lot of stress too.

wiogs

monty-doggy wrote: »

Yes there was 2 receipts. The parcel was big. Another reason i was stressed. It contained clothes belonging to my uncle. He lived with us for three years tattling terminal cancer. We lost him Xmas last year. I was sending the clothes to be made into a keepsake bear for my mum as an Xmas gift.

To clarify, the till will always balance as if you do petty cash out it deducts expected cash, if u do petty in it adds it to expected. Cash.

The can check every expense I've ever done, it's prob once a week for a letter to head office and a bottle of milk. All the receipts are there and all are witnessed.

Those are business expenses I assume? This is unrelated as it is using company money for your own personal use.

monty-doggy

Yes I was just answering the point that I could have done the same thing before.

It was six days. I know it's not good, I just forgot.

I'm at the point now where I'm just exhausted with it all. I can't change what's happened, but I can change or re steer my path. I've pretty much accepted ill be sacked. So when I go to meet them it will probably be with my resignation.

I'm looking for a new job.

BristolBob

The receipt for the OP's package should never have made its way into the till. Had the OP retrieved it, the till would not have balanced and any reconciliation/explanation could have been easily traced and rectified. It does not, in my view, look good for the OP.

If I were the area manager/HR I would be looking for dismissal. I know that isn't of comfort to the OP but the risks of fraudulent use of company funds is too great and the fact that the OP works in a business with "stock" and that they are obviously in a position with great opportunity for abuse is just too much.

paulineb_2

monty-doggy wrote: »

Yes I was just answering the point that I could have done the same thing before.

It was six days. I know it's not good, I just forgot.

I'm at the point now where I'm just exhausted with it all. I can't change what's happened, but I can change or re steer my path. I've pretty much accepted ill be sacked. So when I go to meet them it will probably be with my resignation.

I'm looking for a new job.

Why are you resigning? Do you not realise that this could leave you in a very difficult position if you go and claim benefits.

If you are set on resigning the only advice I can give you is to get a medical certificate from your GP and claim ESA if the stress of all this makes you unable to work in the meantime, that would at least give you some income and a bit of breathing space. Walk out of the job and go on JSA, they could sanction you which means your only option would be to apply for hardship which is a reduced rate of job seekers allowance.

People might think it looks better on an employment record to resign before they have to go through a disciplinary procedure but as I said before, if you do resign and then go and sign on and try and get JSA, you could end up being sanctioned, which means no benefits, the only benefit you could claim would be hardship benefits, because if you walk out of a job without having another to go to, no matter what the circumstances, it looks as if you have intentionally made yourself unemployed.

Your employer isnt under any obligation to give you a reference no matter what happens.

I appreciate the stress you are under and I also appreciate that going through a disciplinary isnt easy and its stressful, but you are going to walk away from this job and leave yourself with possibly no income for a couple of months when youve stated that you cant afford to be sacked?

Yes you can look for another job, one where you'll be treated better, but you need to pay bills and eat in the meantime.

How are you going to manage financially until you get another job.

paulineb_2

BristolBob wrote: »

The receipt for the OP's package should never have made its way into the till. Had the OP retrieved it, the till would not have balanced and any reconciliation/explanation could have been easily traced and rectified. It does not, in my view, look good for the OP.

If I were the area manager/HR I would be looking for dismissal. I know that isn't of comfort to the OP but the risks of fraudulent use of company funds is too great and the fact that the OP works in a business with "stock" and that they are obviously in a position with great opportunity for abuse is just too much.

Some managers wouldnt be looking for dismissal over a genuine oversight by someone who has never been disciplined before.

Particularly when its very clear that the assistant manager isnt behaving in a particularly professional manner either.

If someone is under a lot of stress which the OP clearly has been, its very easy to forget something.

Forgetting to pay for something doesnt mean that you are going to abuse company funds.

Just looks to me like they want the OP out and this is their way of doing it.

monty-doggy

I'm now off sick as I didn't go to the meeting today. I have a small savings pot, my OH is working and we will manage.
Even if I'm not sacked I can't go back. I dread to think what's been said to my team and customers.

How humiliating.