Facing dismissal because of a mistake

wiogs

andygb wrote: »

I am afraid that you are totally wrong on this point.
I have worked in accounts departments for thirty years, and I would say that the majority would allow a petty cash "sub" as long as it was accompanied by a signed slip (an IOU to be repaid within a set period).
I am not just talking about small firms either, I have found it to be the case in large accountancy practices as well.

This is why I have stated that I believe this to be a "warning" situation rather than a dismissal.

My first job involved petty cash and I can recall at the end of the week there would be no money only IOUs!

fruitedeli

monty-doggy wrote: »

I'm hoping if I find a new job ASAP I can go to the disciplinary, hand in my resignation and state my case.

I'm not going to ignore it. My area manager knows I'm good at my job, how far I've come and how hard I work.

And if he wasn't gong to dismiss me he will be sorry to see me go.

But then he could sack me and I'm not taking that risk.

You'll be handing in notice to resign but you can be sacked before your notice expires. Even if you manage to leave before the investigation is completed, you'll be leaving pending investigation for gross misconduct. That will go on any reference and employers will assume the worst, assume your resigning is admittance of guilt and that gross misconduct is something severe. Future job applications are likely to get binned before any employer gives you the chance to explain what that gross misconduct allegation is and your circumstances.

cod3

monty-doggy wrote: »

I'm hoping if I find a new job ASAP I can go to the disciplinary, hand in my resignation and state my case.

I'm not going to ignore it. My area manager knows I'm good at my job, how far I've come and how hard I work.

And if he wasn't gong to dismiss me he will be sorry to see me go.

But then he could sack me and I'm not taking that risk.

So you hope to find a new job so that you can turn up at the disciplinary meeting next week and tell them you are resigning as you managed to find a job, attended an interview perhaps, while off sick? I realise you are probably job searching as you are panicked, but this is a bad plan. Concentrate on getting well.

My advice would be to re-read dshart's post #197 and follow it to the letter. Good luck.

paulineb_2

I think leaving pending a disciplinary is the worst thing you could do under these circumstances. Even if you dont want to go back and are unwell, you can ask the employer if you can state your case in writing and they have the disciplinary hearing in your absence, if you are too stressed to go through with it.

If you find a job, they are going to ask you to provide a reference and with the employment situation the way it is at the moment, unless you know people who are hiring right now, its going to be tough and it might take a few months before you get a job offer

You can use other references and not your last employer, but then you might be asked why you havent. Ive not used some of my last employers as references, Ive used other ones. When I was sacked from the job I spoke about earlier, I was honest with new employers, I also told them exactly how bad things were for me and I didnt want a reference from them anyway, if they had given one, theyd have tried to put the boot in, I knew that.

But leaving without going through the disciplinary process, not only does it not give you the opportunity to state your case, it doesnt guarantee you a reference from them and you are still going to be in the situation where you are going to be looking for other work and you may not want to put them as a referee and thats totally fine, but I do think the chances of you getting another job before you resign unless all this takes months are slim.

And if you really do not want to go back, then speak to someone about the possibility of ending your job by way of a compromise agreement.

paulineb_2

Id also like to say that lots of people get unfairly and also fairly sacked every single day and its not an automatic stain on your job record. The disciplinary process is not nice. Its stressful. But issues do happen in the workplace. Ive seen people over the years get sacked for absolutely nothing, just because a manager wanted them out and Ive seen people behave disgracefully in the work and do things that should have been automatic dismissal and get away with it.

I appreciate that you are feeling stressed and ill, but being dismissed is not the end of the world.

If you are determined to resign, then just bear in mind whats been said about references. They may not give you a reference if you walk out. They may give you one but they may mention that you resigned pending a disciplinary and in my view its always better to be honest with future employers about what happened to you.

Also, going through the disciplinary process might give you closure. Because if they make a wrong decision, you'll have the opportunity to appeal it, the appeal should be heard by someone who has had no knowledge of whats happened to date. But at least you'll know.

Resign and you wont know what decision they might have made and its a bit pointless stating your case when you hand in your resignation.

paulineb_2

monty-doggy wrote: »

I'm at the doctors tomorrow.

I just feel sick. I've no appetite.

I can't tell you how much I loved my job. I thought it was a job for life.

I feel like I'm grieving because my life has been turned upside down.
I also feel like I've let my family down.

But there were also pressures associated with that job as well which you spoke about, it wasnt all good.

I understand what you mean about grieving, I too went through what I would call a grieving process when I was sacked. I had put so much effort into that job and it all went wrong.

But in the end, getting away from them was the absolute best thing for me. Your health must come first that is the bottom line.

Just dont make any knee jerk reactions about resigning without taking advice and talking things over with your GP and family and Id also say to you, the next job you get, join a union.

yvonne13_2

OP have you decided what your going to do?

monty-doggy

I visited the dr today who has signed me off for stress and anxiety, and has suggested I try a low dose of anti depressants as its obvious my accident has really affected me. I've also got some new pain killers.

I may have torn the tendon in my foot/ankle when I fell down the stairs earlier in the week.

I've spoken to the hr dept at work and will address the disciplinary as soon as I feel strong enough. I've spent today resting asleep in bed.

jacques_chirac

monty-doggy wrote: »

I visited the dr today who has signed me off for stress and anxiety, and has suggested I try a low dose of anti depressants as its obvious my accident has really affected me. I've also got some new pain killers.

I may have torn the tendon in my foot/ankle when I fell down the stairs earlier in the week.

I've spoken to the hr dept at work and will address the disciplinary as soon as I feel strong enough. I've spent today resting asleep in bed.

Be careful not to leave it too long. It is going to be difficult to feel better with this hanging over you, and the longer you leave it the less likely they are to be amenable to a compromise of some sort. Ultimately they can hear the disciplinary in your absence. I can understand the stress you are under, but I would be aiming to make contact with your employer early next week.

yvonne13_2

monty-doggy wrote: »

I visited the dr today who has signed me off for stress and anxiety, and has suggested I try a low dose of anti depressants as its obvious my accident has really affected me. I've also got some new pain killers.

I may have torn the tendon in my foot/ankle when I fell down the stairs earlier in the week.

I've spoken to the hr dept at work and will address the disciplinary as soon as I feel strong enough. I've spent today resting asleep in bed.

I hope after you've had enough rest you change your mind about handing in your notice